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  • Lopez_Boxing
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    Mayweather joshua

    Now that the path from wilder to Joshua is getting shorter I can't help but notice the very noticeable double standards some fans are so obviously using in their "why I don't want aj to fight wilder debate." And what is it?
    MONEY.

    What they hate maweather for doing they are suggesting Joshua do the same, encouraging it. AJ doesn't need wilder to make 20 million, so why should aj fight the best when he can fight ANYBODY and make the same amount. Low risk high reward.

    When mayweather gave pacquiao a flat fee offer that would be a career high payday, people were insulted! Defended Manny for not accepting it, and rightfully so. Now wilder is offered a flat fee, which also happens to be career high pay day, and before any one even knows what type of money Joshua wilder will generate youre telling him he is a fool and duck for not signing immediately.

    Now it's no longer important to fight wilder because Joshua has endorsement deals. Joshuas money has some how become a shield for blocking the fight. Well, it shouldn't be. True, for the time being, Aj can make $20 million fighting anyone, but fighting just any one that's not what the best does. That's not what champions do. He may be able to make 20 million to get in the ring with anyone, but he will only unify, become undisputed champion by getting a victory over wilder. And as fans isnt that what we live for? Best vs best. ONE champion.

    It will be a career high payday for wilder, but it will also be one for Aj. And if money is truley important then the fight should be staged in America where stretching the fight across two nations will maximize the revenue.
    I thought no one cares about maywesthers purse guarantee. When he posts his fight checks it's cring worthy. He's called sad and Insecure even though his checks are 4x the amount of Joshua which seem to all of the sudden become impressive. The responsibility was placed on Floyd for the pac fight being dragged across 5 years. Floyd was the A side so the consensus was he had to be the hold up. I thought it was a champions duty to fight the best regardless of pay out. AJ is the a side. It is up to him to do the same thing that was expected of mayweather, cut the shlt and make the fight. I for one am tired of the marinating. We lost to many dream matches that we can now only discuss as fantasy fights. We are calling for davis/Loma, Spence/Crawford, canelo/ and insert who ever is the flavor of the week. It's time to call for Joshua wilder, or we can wait until they lose a step. Wait until someone loses and say only if.

    Maybe it's naive of me to not focus on the fighters money, but I have enough trouble balancing my own checkbook, there's no way I can focus on someelses finances. AJ and wilder have managers, advisors and accountants. They will figure out the spilt. Our conern shouldn't be a fair spilt, our only concern should be it's a fair fight
    Last edited by Lopez_Boxing; 11-26-2018, 08:40 PM.
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    #2
    Floyd Mayweather Jnr + hate + jealousy + 2 x sour g****s = Double Standards.

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    • Phenom
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      #3
      Joshua is no Mayweather sooner they (AJ fanboys) realize this the sooner the fight can be made

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      • GhostofDempsey
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        #4
        You got it backwards. Floyd and his fans started this trend. His fans defended his A-side behavior his entire career. Now they want to change the rules in the middle of the game.

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        • Phenom
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          #5
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          You got it backwards. Floyd and his fans started this trend. His fans defended his A-side behavior his entire career. Now they want to change the rules in the middle of the game.
          Floyd made all the big fights he even offered Pacquiao a 50/50 split for March 2011 fight and last but not least Floyd was breaking records PPV live gates etc so he wasn't a random A side

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            #6
            Originally posted by Phenom
            Floyd made all the big fights he even offered Pacquiao a 50/50 split for March 2011 fight and last but not least Floyd was breaking records PPV live gates etc so he wasn't a random A side
            There was no contract for a 50/50 split in 2011.

            AJ holds two of the top ten all time attendance records. He was earning $20M in just his 20th fight. How much did Floyd earn for his 20th? De La Hoya made Floyd a star, it was a passing of the torch. All of Floyd’s biggest PPV fights were just as much a result of his opponents drawing power.

            Again, stop with the excuses. Can’t change rules mid-game. Your guy created this mess.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #7
              Paragraphs brother lol.

              But as to this:
              Our conern shouldn't be a fair spilt, our only concern should be it's a fair fight
              I agree 100%, but the thing is there is often so much time between big fights that these things become news stories more easily & become legit topics of discussions for us the hardcore fans who pay attention to boxing 24/7/365. So its not really a surprise in this era we've focused more on money cuz that info is more readily available to discuss for us & the big fights seem to happen less often then they used to.

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              • Phenom
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                #8
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                There was no contract for a 50/50 split in 2011.

                AJ holds two of the top ten all time attendance records. He was earning $20M in just his 20th fight. How much did Floyd earn for his 20th? De La Hoya made Floyd a star, it was a passing of the torch. All of Floyd’s biggest PPV fights were just as much a result of his opponents drawing power.

                Again, stop with the excuses. Can’t change rules mid-game. Your guy created this mess.
                Attendance record don't mean **** I'm sure Canelo can fill out Estadio Azteca and walk away with live gate of $500K but he rather fight in 20k arena instead

                And here you go 50/50 Split in MGM on march 2011

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                • Lopez_Boxing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  There was no contract for a 50/50 split in 2011.

                  AJ holds two of the top ten all time attendance records. He was earning $20M in just his 20th fight. How much did Floyd earn for his 20th? De La Hoya made Floyd a star, it was a passing of the torch. All of Floyd’s biggest PPV fights were just as much a result of his opponents drawing power.

                  Again, stop with the excuses. Can’t change rules mid-game. Your guy created this mess.
                  Yeah and LeBron James has earned more on his 5th season than mike Jordan. Doesn't mean hes better or more popular. Just the pay these athletes get now a days is outrageous.
                  Floyd made Floyd a star. Oscar made Oscar a star as Aj did himself. To not give credit to Floyds numerous top 10 all time ppvs is a bit irresponsible. Its not a coincidence Floyd's name has set so many records. True Floyd can sell more ppv depending on the name opposite the bill, but it's Floyds name that peaks the interest. No one besides Floyd is selling 4 million ppvs. He's the main ingredient. You have to have Floyd's name in the equation. No other combination of 2 can do it. If you are saying Floyd started this then it has to be you changing your rules midgame. If you didn't agree with Floyds reasoning then you shouldn't want to apply it to some one now as benefit for your side. If you do then you're saying Floyd was right the whole time and you were wrong.... we just so happen to keep encountering each other in different threads. Just want to make it clear I appreciate the intellectual convo. Much respect. I'm not following you trying to flex my views.
                  Last edited by Lopez_Boxing; 11-26-2018, 08:54 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    Floyd made all the big fights he even offered Pacquiao a 50/50 split for March 2011 fight and last but not least Floyd was breaking records PPV live gates etc so he wasn't a random A side
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    There was no contract for a 50/50 split in 2011.
                    Ghosts is a clown and a white supremacist. And he's wrong at least 90% of the time.

                    Floyd offered the fight and agreed to a ludicrous weight penalty of $10 million/pound over 147 (never heard of before). To counter Floyd demanded additional drug testing. Manny couldn't come to terms with that...I would say "you figure out the rest", but your hatred for blacks plagues your thought process.

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                    "Reports from ESPN.com state that Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Shaefer has revealed that the fight would be fought at 147 pounds, and that the penalty for coming in over weight would be a whopping $10 million per pound.

                    The huge penalty was called for by members of the Pacquaio camp, after Mayweather ignored the contract limit of 144 pounds in his last fight with Juan Manuel Marquez and weighed-in at 146. Mayweather won that fight by unanimous decision."

                    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2009/de...sagreement-ov/

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                    "Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports reported in 2012 that Mayweather and Pacquiao came within a whisker of settling their differences with a 2010 fight. All the details were worked out, including the date, a 50-50 purse split, who would receive top billing on promotional materials and the order in which the men would enter the ring and be announced to the crowd.

                    But it all came apart over Pacquiao's objections to Mayweather's demands for strict, random blood testing, which promoter Bob Arum claimed, per David Mayo of MLive.com, was to be implemented right up to the weigh in"

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                    "A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010."

                    The two sides had a contract drawn up that both sides that nearly got signed before Pacquiao balked at Mayweather's testing requirements.


                    https://www.************.com/2011/11...-common-sense/



                    Another white supremacist DOWN!

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