Wilder v fury isnt a big fight

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  • JWHardin
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    #31
    It's a much bigger fight than Joshua vs Povetkin.

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    • Mindgames
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      #32
      Originally posted by Boksfan
      All you said can be applied to Fury also.
      Fury gets fat between fights but he doesnt get in the ring at 300 plus pounds. Fury has at least a few world level undefeated or durable contender types like Chisora and Johnson before they were actually finished, and a win over the consensus number one heavy at the time. He can box and move and has actually done it at world level against a dangerous puncher. So yeah, other than all that, just like Miller 😂

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      • keepemup
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        #33
        This is a big fight. As the day comes closer it will be talked about more and more.

        I vacillate between a Wilder KO and a Fury UD.

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #34
          Originally posted by JWHardin
          It's a much bigger fight than Joshua vs Povetkin.
          Is it really....

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          • hugh grant
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            #35
            This is a huge fight.
            You are only as good as your last fight and let's pretend fury did not take his last 2 fights. He beat wlad in his last fight. Yes, fury ballooned up in weight and took drugs. What fury gets up to is his own choice. He might have did that before wlad fight for all we know also.
            He wasn't in fight shape in last 2. But Dec 1st he will be in shape and only wilder and josh would start favourite against him.
            If fury is 18 stone next week he'd be favourite against anyone not named wilder and josh.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 11-26-2018, 02:40 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mindgames
              Im suprised you think Miller could test Fury. He's extremely over weight, slow and im not sure about this chin thing. Cro cop had him hurt with a left hook, and hes not a big puncher. And Miller has fought no one.
              My opinion has to do with the old saw that "styles make fights" and in this case if we connect the dots where Fury had problems with the altitude, had to make relatively sudden preparations for the fight, was weakened by his living habits... then an opponent that keeps coming forwards, has a good enough chin to conceviably take Fury's punches, could be a real problem for Fury under the circumstances.

              You take liberties in your analysis of Miller,. there is nothing to suggest he is overweight given his work rate. He is not a speed demon but has good power and potentially we don't know how good his punch is just yet. He has done well against those he has fought and his level of activity has remained stable. A guy who can take a shot, keep coming and fight at all ranges has a decent style at the very least.

              With that being said, it is entirely possible when Big Baby moves up, he is exposed, it happens to most fighters, which is why only some guys can make the journey from stream to spawn.

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              • Boksfan
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mindgames
                Fury gets fat between fights but he doesnt get in the ring at 300 plus pounds. Fury has at least a few world level undefeated or durable contender types like Chisora and Johnson before they were actually finished, and a win over the consensus number one heavy at the time. He can box and move and has actually done it at world level against a dangerous puncher. So yeah, other than all that, just like Miller 😂
                Still you can't deny there are similarities.

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                • Mindgames
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by billeau2
                  My opinion has to do with the old saw that "styles make fights" and in this case if we connect the dots where Fury had problems with the altitude, had to make relatively sudden preparations for the fight, was weakened by his living habits... then an opponent that keeps coming forwards, has a good enough chin to conceviably take Fury's punches, could be a real problem for Fury under the circumstances.

                  You take liberties in your analysis of Miller,. there is nothing to suggest he is overweight given his work rate. He is not a speed demon but has good power and potentially we don't know how good his punch is just yet. He has done well against those he has fought and his level of activity has remained stable. A guy who can take a shot, keep coming and fight at all ranges has a decent style at the very least.

                  With that being said, it is entirely possible when Big Baby moves up, he is exposed, it happens to most fighters, which is why only some guys can make the journey from stream to spawn.
                  Thing is he doesnt look very fast on hes feet to me, and hes getting noticeably slower the more weight he gains. Im not saying he cant punch but even in the Washington fight he was getting the look of an arm puncher who finds it abit tiring loading anything up at all. In fact he reminds me alot of Danny Williams, who felt more and more secure in hes bulk advantage, a kind of percieved insulation against punishment. I think it worked against Tyson, but failed badly against Klitschko, who was long and rangy and who he couldn't get close to. I think Furys range against Millers slow feet, and Furys head movement make it an awkward night. I think speed looks like the way to trouble Fury ala Cunningham. There's a such thing as too heavy. Another one was Browne coming in so heavy against Dillian Whyte. Skilled guys just use you as target practice at that point
                  Last edited by Mindgames; 11-26-2018, 04:08 PM.

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                  • Boxing Goat
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DramaShow
                    Can we quit hyping this up? The term 'big fight' gets thrown around too easy. Theres not much interest in it for a good reason. Its got a crappy undercard and a circus fight main event with someone who hasnt fought a top 100 heavyweight since he put on 10 stone. Wilder winning also does nothing for his resume, lets just make that very clear.
                    Could have fooled me! It's the biggest fight at HW at the moment so if that's not a big fight, then there's no big fights out there right now.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #40
                      I guess the Fury "not looking good in sparring" thread failed so now dramshow is going this route.

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