Hatman: Wilder ducked Klitschko...

[rickJen]

Guys,

Didn't you notice your points are now in thousands,
not in hundreds of millions, billions, trillions...?
Mine too.
What happened?

[Robbie Barrett]

Guys,

Didn't you notice your points are now in thousands,
not in hundreds of millions, billions, trillions...?
Mine too.
What happened?

People had so many that they became worthless, so they decided to reset. There's a thread about it in the suggestions section.

[REDEEMER]

This narrative has been pushed for over a year now and it is nothing but propaganda.

Wilder calls out Wlad



Wlad tells Wilder he needs a resume



Finkel worked for both.


Hatman is being propagandist. Wilder wanted the fight. Wlad didn't. The man who managed them both didn't. To say Wilder ducked Wlad is maybe even a little more propagandist than Wlad ducked Wilder given you'll not find any video of Wlad saying he wants that fight while Wilder's not only calling him out but laying out his plans to the press.

You are morons following a bull**** artist. Why you'd watch youtube for a boxing education is beyond me. They have ulterior motives....they are entertainers, duh.

You kids just got over you reality TV craze and now you want to act like YT is a place that isn't full of bull**** and sleaze.

You can't accuse anyone of being a moron, you prove that to be you time and again in here. The videos aren't even in the same time frame, one is after Wilder won the belt and it's also showing he doesn't want the fight because he states he won't fight Klitschko until a year which is ironic considering he expected Joshua to fight him as soon as he was called out ? The difference here is Wilder was sent a contract.

Klitschko wasn't talking about himself he was talking about Wilder needing to step it up, he was already involved with Fury . This was Klitschko clearly pointing out how bad Wilder s resume is because it was.Lead stated he wanted The Wilder fight before he fought Jennings again it helps to.know what you're talking about , you seem to have difficulties in this area.

edit :Finkel wasn't Klitschko manager it was Bonte in 2015 , you don't know that because you don't follow timelines because you don't follow the current times. It's why Finkel would never had let Wilder fight him , we know this because he said it, it's why Wlad fought Joshua .

[DaNeutral.]

Hatman is correct Wilder without doubt ducked Wlad Klitchko. If Deontay is already well over 30 fights into his career, unbeaten, knocked everybody out and is a world champion and his manager calls him a baby in the sport and there is no rush then there isnt a more clear duck than that.

If we can call Joshua a coward and a ducker for not wanting to stay up all night to watch a load of mismatches then we can call Wilder a ducker for straight up refusing to fight Wlad. Finkel didnt even try to hide that one. He called his over 30 fight world champion a baby and not ready. There is no misconception there, we havent read that wrong, we dont need to read between the lines. Its a duck, plain as day, in your face duck.

[Ray*]

You can't accuse anyone of being a moron, you prove that to be you time and again in here. The videos aren't even in the same time frame, one is after Wilder won the belt and it's also showing he doesn't want the fight because he states he won't fight Klitschko until a year which is ironic considering he expected Joshua to fight him as soon as he was called out ? The difference here is Wilder was sent a contract.

Klitschko wasn't talking about himself he was talking about Wilder needing to step it up, he was already involved with Fury . This was Klitschko clearly pointing out how bad Wilder s resume is because it was.lead stated he wanted The Wilder fight before he fought Jennings again it helps to.know what you're talking about , you seem to have difficulties in this area.

Finkel wasn't Klitschko manager it was Bustamante in 2015 , you don't know that because you don't follow timelines because you don't follow the current times.

These Wilder fanatics thinks everyone is like them, they think most boxing fans have their deluded self entitlement mentality. How anyone can defend Wilder own manager comments is beyond belief. You got to be a fanboy to even try to.

Trying to twist words and making excuses for a beltholder that held the belt from 2015 and never fought the other champ is ridiculous. Not only that but he never unified that belt once. He basically held it hostage as a bargaining chip. No different to what other champions do from every other country and they get call out and ridiculed for it.

[REDEEMER]

These Wilder fanatics thinks everyone is like them, they think most boxing fans have their deluded self entitlement mentality. How anyone can defend Wilder own manager comments is beyond belief. You got to be a fanboy to even try to.

Trying to twist words and making excuses for a beltholder that held the belt from 2015 and never fought the other champ is ridiculous. Not only that but he never unified that belt once. He basically held it hostage as a bargaining chip. No different to what other champions do from every other country and they get call out and ridiculed for it.

I understand Wilder didn't exactly line up with Klitschko but the reason why Joshua fought him was Finkel wasn't going to let Wilder take a Wlad fight. Not until the fight was made did Wilder speak out about Wlad ducking him, typical Wilder behaviour i can't stand this guy. Ha

Wilder did slow his career down waiting out the Klitschko brothers to leave so that is avoiding guys.

[Ray*]

I understand Wilder didn't exactly line up with Klitschko but the reason why Joshua fought him was Finkel wasn't going to let Wilder take a Wlad fight. Not until the fight was made did Wilder speak out about Wlad ducking him, typical Wilder behaviour i can't stand this guy. Ha

Wilder did slow his career down waiting out the Klitschko brothers to leave so that is avoiding guys.

They contradict themselves multiple time, I never thought Wilder challenged himself or wanted to. In the video posted he talked about “They would come and see him in America” because he has the WBC belt.

He or his team never wanted to fight Wlad, they went after Bermane because he was safe just like Joshua went after Martin. It was the easier champion to try and get that belt off on paper.

Difference is Joshua has gone on to unify his belt. In those years I thought Wilder could have, why he never fought Martin is still a mystery to me. The day Martin won the IBF belt was on the same card as Wilder. Why not make that fight thereafter and then Wilder would have two belts, why not make Parker an offer and take that belt off him.

Instead we had Arreola, Washington, Molina etc and these mongs want to talk about the guy that actually did in half the fights too.

[Earl-Hickey]

finkel was setting it up and it got derailed...weve been over this and finkel provided his insight and there were old quotes posted that show this

but the reality is...even if we entertain the thought...wlad is retired now....whats ajs excuse for ducking a prime threat that he should be ready to fight? if wilder is such windmilling, bumkilling, hypejob then he should be much easier work than the "legendary" wlad right? lol....so why is AJ ducking a prime WBC champ who wants to fight him right now?

wlad is retired lol

We aren't discussing Joshua

this is about Wilder ducking klitschko

stop deflecting

[Curt Henning]

"Let them train to be a fighter and fight (Deontay) Wilder," Joshua told AP. "It's easy talking about it. It's another thing doing."

"Let them train to be a fighter and fight (Deontay) Wilder," Joshua told AP. "It's easy talking about it. It's another thing doing."

"Let them train to be a fighter and fight (Deontay) Wilder," Joshua told AP. "It's easy talking about it. It's another thing doing."

[_Rexy_]

They contradict themselves multiple time, I never thought Wilder challenged himself or wanted to. In the video posted he talked about “They would come and see him in America” because he has the WBC belt.

He or his team never wanted to fight Wlad, they went after Bermane because he was safe just like Joshua went after Martin. It was the easier champion to try and get that belt off on paper.

Difference is Joshua has gone on to unify his belt. In those years I thought Wilder could have, why he never fought Martin is still a mystery to me. The day Martin won the IBF belt was on the same card as Wilder. Why not make that fight thereafter and then Wilder would have two belts, why not make Parker an offer and take that belt off him.

Instead we had Arreola, Washington, Molina etc and these mongs want to talk about the guy that actually did in half the fights too.

Wilder did make an offer to Parker. Wilder had a fight lined up with Parker. Parker was at the Wilder/Washington fight. Suddenly a mandatory became more important than a unification, Parker fought Fury and then Arum/Parker decided there was more money and less risk to fighting AJ. I don't blame Parker for that, but it's foolish to blame Wilder for it.