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  • Phenom
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    #11
    Let's look at the time table wilder won the title in 2015 the same year Wlad lost all of his titles to his mandatory when was the duck exactly?

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #12
      Originally posted by DramaShow
      a lot of people will duck this thread
      Hahahahaha..... You must be a prophet to have seen this.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #13
        Originally posted by Gentblue
        It’s only a duck because Fury won he was gonna fight Klitz. Also was Klitz calling for it?

        Still doesn’t change the fact that Joshua wasn’t too keen on him and Ortiz
        Lolx.... Ortiz? That bag of potatoes?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          finkel was setting it up and it got derailed...weve been over this and finkel provided his insight and there were old quotes posted that show this

          but the reality is...even if we entertain the thought...wlad is retired now....whats ajs excuse for ducking a prime threat that he should be ready to fight? if wilder is such windmilling, bumkilling, hypejob then he should be much easier work than the "legendary" wlad right? lol....so why is AJ ducking a prime WBC champ who wants to fight him right now?

          wlad is retired lol
          Lolx..... You guys can also wait until is 33-0. He didn't have enough amateur fights.... Lolx.

          Meanwhile this fight is a signature away from happening. LMAO.

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          • Marchegiano
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            #15
            This narrative has been pushed for over a year now and it is nothing but propaganda.

            Wilder calls out Wlad



            Wlad tells Wilder he needs a resume



            Finkel worked for both.


            Hatman is being propagandist. Wilder wanted the fight. Wlad didn't. The man who managed them both didn't. To say Wilder ducked Wlad is maybe even a little more propagandist than Wlad ducked Wilder given you'll not find any video of Wlad saying he wants that fight while Wilder's not only calling him out but laying out his plans to the press.

            You are morons following a bull**** artist. Why you'd watch youtube for a boxing education is beyond me. They have ulterior motives....they are entertainers, duh.

            You kids just got over you reality TV craze and now you want to act like YT is a place that isn't full of bull**** and sleaze.

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            • rickJen
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              #16
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              This narrative has been pushed for over a year now and it is nothing but propaganda.

              Wilder calls out Wlad

              Wlad tells Wilder he needs a resume

              Finkel worked for both.

              Hatman is being propagandist. Wilder wanted the fight. Wlad didn't. The man who managed them both didn't. To say Wilder ducked Wlad is maybe even a little more propagandist than Wlad ducked Wilder given you'll not find any video of Wlad saying he wants that fight while Wilder's not only calling him out but laying out his plans to the press.

              You are morons following a bull**** artist. Why you'd watch youtube for a boxing education is beyond me. They have ulterior motives....they are entertainers, duh.

              You kids just got over you reality TV craze and now you want to act like YT is a place that isn't full of bull**** and sleaze.
              That's all nonsense at the end of the day.
              Bottom line is Finkel who is manager to both never made any effort to make the fight.
              Same guy who said, "Wilder will not be rushed to fight Klitschko." That was in 2015.
              He had 2 years to make the fight happen. He didn't lift a finger.
              There's nothing so hard to understand unless you're twelve.

              There was even a moment were both Klitsch and Wilder were available to fight.
              Fury pulled out of the rematch and Klitsch was itching for a replacement fight.
              Deontay suddenly pulled this injury excuse of his.
              Kills me.
              Last edited by rickJen; 11-24-2018, 06:23 PM.

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              • Jewish-Reptile
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                #17
                Originally posted by Phenom
                Hearn pursued semi retired Klitschko like a mad dog after coming of a loss and not having a belt they basically lobbied the WBA to put the vacant belt on the line

                You people are the new Pactards
                Hearn lobbied the WBA because Wlad wasn’t going to fight unless it was on the line due to him having a high ranking already and not wanting to miss out on the chance to unify the belts again should he beat Joshua and only hold the IBF, he knew he could go after the WBA and the Joshua fight would still be there down the road.

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                  #18
                  Wilder is on record before Wlad fought Jennings stating ‘why do I need to fight Klitschko now when I can wait for him to get old’, I remember thinking to myself after the wbc gave their blessing for a unification damn, but tbf Vitali could have vacated sooner and Wlad could have unified earlier against say Stiverne. Wilder was well within his rights to allow Klitschko to age and slow like Clenelo did with Golovturd.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by genrick
                    That's all nonsense at the end of the day.
                    Bottom line is Finkel who is manager to both never made any effort to make the fight.
                    Same guy who said, "Wilder will not be rushed to fight Klitschko." That was in 2015.
                    He had 2 years to make the fight happen. He didn't lift a finger.
                    There's nothing so hard to understand unless you're twelve.

                    There was even a moment were both Klitsch and Wilder were available to fight.
                    Fury pulled out of the rematch and Klitsch was itching for a replacement fight.
                    Deontay suddenly pulled this injury excuse of his.
                    Kills me.

                    During the rematch phase of Wlad-Tyson Wilder was held up by mandatory obligation with Povetkin. There was never any talks of a unification fight after the WBC ordered mandatory. Wilder had to make short notice vols he requested permission for the entire time.

                    Yes, the manager of them both reaffirmed one of his client's feelings while throwing the other under the bus. No one's arguing that. It doesn't help your argument to focus on how Finkel managed both. It does mine though.

                    You know it's funny. Everytime I correct one of you kids you revert to insults. Maybe if you knew your ass before you ran your mouth you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself with insults just because someone pointed out holes in the bull**** you're trying to push.


                    You can only find a video of the man in the middle agreeing with Wlad. You want to spin this into Wlad wanted it and Wilder didn't but you can't find any video of Wlad saying he wants that fight and you can find plenty of Wilder.

                    For some reason in this case the man in the middle isn't in equal parts middle man. No he's a Wilder agent solely...even though he worked for Wlad well before he ever met Wilder...his refusal to make that fight couldn't have anything to do with it being a conflict of his interests...nope...him were protecting Wilder and just Wilder.

                    I'm the one who is twelve am I?

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                    • Outwest Exp 355
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                      #20
                      You know how haters are. If you say it enough then it becomes true.

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