Hatman: Wilder ducked Klitschko...

[_Rexy_]

My **** kid! Look **** up before you run that mouth, you clearly need to.

Fury became the mando way before August of 2015. He was Mando early in the year...I think it was Feb but it may be best to look that up if you want a firm date.

That doesn't have anything to do with Wilder pursuing Wlad....like at all. Mandos can be pushed aside for uni's. That's why Wlad's answer isn't "I'm fighting Fury" it is " Wilder needs a better resume". Not "After Fury" either but rather "Wilder needs a resume"

Wilder also tried to get in the way of Fury becoming mando but Peter was having none of that.

Wlad's own manager Finkel said Wilder isn't ready is just as true as Wilder's manager.

Just because you don't know a ****ing thing outside of what Eddie has told you doesn't make it true.

Wlad said he didn't want Wilder yet. Wilder said he did want Wlad. The man in the middle sided with his long term investment over his new one.

You can tell me all about how Shelly was Wilder's manager a thousand times over it doesn't change a ****ing thing. Wlad was the only one shying away from that fight.

It's funny how you lie, get shown it's nothing short of a lie, then drop your argument to rehash your previous point.....you going to admit you were mistaken about Finkel's connection to Wlad during the Fury fight or are we just going to pretend you didn't get your ass handed to you?

Another thing to note: Wlad was pretty famous for only fighting mandatories. He didn’t give Voluntaries. All the Klit fans would say “if you want Wlad, become a mandatory!” So it’s not like Wlad was going to fight Wilder anyways. Wlad knew he was on his way out. He hadn’t knocked anyone down in years. AJ fans talk like Wlad had lead fists because he knocked down their boy, but he hadn’t put anyone on their back since Pulev four years earlier.

And Fury was WBA mandatory and WBO mandatory before Wlad stopped ducking Tyson.

[Ray*]

Can’t force someone to fight you. Him trying to get a Parker fight is documented, Parker is on record about having talks, Parker was at his Washington match. Parker didn’t want the fight. Him trying to get a Joshua fight is documented. him trying to get a Fury fight is documented and Fury is a true champion. Fury is taking the challenge and everyone is calling him ****** for taking a risk:

Nope it’s not well documented, saying I want a fight doesn’t mean the fight falls on your lap. You go out there and make offers, what offers were made to Parker when he was a champion?

Fury is being cherrypicked and on the face of it he isn’t ready, Wilder would never ever take a fight like this one if he was Fury. Just because he is fighting Wilder at his weakest = He is a true champion. Nah if he was fighting Wilder at his best then he is a true champion.

[Marchegiano]

Another thing to note: Wlad was pretty famous for only fighting mandatories. He didn’t give Voluntaries. All the Klit fans would say “if you want Wlad, become a mandatory!” So it’s not like Wlad was going to fight Wilder anyways. Wlad knew he was on his way out. He hadn’t knocked anyone down in years. AJ fans talk like Wlad had lead fists because he knocked down their boy, but he hadn’t put anyone on their back since Pulev four years earlier.

And Fury was WBA mandatory and WBO mandatory before Wlad stopped ducking Tyson.

Not a single vol in his entire career if I'm not mistaken.

Peter talked about it when Wilder tried to get Fury before the Hammer fight. It wasn't that Peter was worried Tyson might lose to Wilder it was because he was worried Tyson might lose his shot at Wlad. Everyone ran with that like Tyson was scared he'd lose to Wilder and therefor lose his shot but I'm pretty sure Peter was more concerned with adhering to the bodies mandates and not rocking the boat on a guaranteed position.

It is crazy how much people now pretend like Wlad went after anyone because when we say things like he only fought mandatories it is true but kind of an understatement. They were not clear mandos all the time. I remember when Mormeck was brought in. He was ranked like tenth and somehow mando....Ortiz was fifth at the time. We got Mormeck though. imagine how good Ortiz would look on Wlad's resume today.

Admittedly I didn't pay much attention to the whys back then because, you know, Dr.Steelhammer didn't look near finished yet and there was no one to look to to do it, but, even in 2012 Mormeck wasn't ****. Ust, Ortiz, Arreola, all viable mandos but we got Mormeck.

The Wlad mando years were like a Wlad lottery. You never knew who was going to be named mando next.

[Derranged]

I think the fight might've happened if Wlad didn't lose to Fatury.

[Richard Hamilton]

Hatman is clueless

[REDEEMER]

My **** kid! Look **** up before you run that mouth, you clearly need to.

Fury became the mando way before August of 2015. He was Mando early in the year...I think it was Feb but it may be best to look that up if you want a firm date.

That doesn't have anything to do with Wilder pursuing Wlad....like at all. Mandos can be pushed aside for uni's. That's why Wlad's answer isn't "I'm fighting Fury" it is " Wilder needs a better resume". Not "After Fury" either but rather "Wilder needs a resume"

Wilder also tried to get in the way of Fury becoming mando but Peter was having none of that.

Wlad's own manager Finkel said Wilder isn't ready is just as true as Wilder's manager.

Just because you don't know a ****ing thing outside of what Eddie has told you doesn't make it true.

Wlad said he didn't want Wilder yet. Wilder said he did want Wlad. The man in the middle sided with his long term investment over his new one.

You can tell me all about how Shelly was Wilder's manager a thousand times over it doesn't change a ****ing thing. Wlad was the only one shying away from that fight.

It's funny how you lie, get shown it's nothing short of a lie, then drop your argument to rehash your previous point.....you going to admit you were mistaken about Finkel's connection to Wlad during the Fury fight or are we just going to pretend you didn't get your ass handed to you?

Fury became the second mandatory challenger after he defeated Chisora...Klitschko fought Pulev in November another Mandatory in 2014 . Fury was always going to come up but they wanted their shot ...so how did Klitschko not want Wilder when that's the fight he was looking at before Fury pressed for his shot? The same Wilder that Klitschko knocked down in sparring, that's the guy im supposed to believe Klitschko ducked ? Ha

You should have just stopped when you said Finkel was Klitschko manager it's a known fact that Bonte made the Fury fight with Warren.

Wilder perusing Wlad ? Yes after he already announced the Fury fight! The video you posted proved you have no clue what you're talking about because Wilder is saying he won't fight Klitschko until 2016 which is a year he said it !Ha

[REDEEMER]

Another thing to note: Wlad was pretty famous for only fighting mandatories. He didn’t give Voluntaries. All the Klit fans would say “if you want Wlad, become a mandatory!” So it’s not like Wlad was going to fight Wilder anyways. Wlad knew he was on his way out. He hadn’t knocked anyone down in years. AJ fans talk like Wlad had lead fists because he knocked down their boy, but he hadn’t put anyone on their back since Pulev four years earlier.

And Fury was WBA mandatory and WBO mandatory before Wlad stopped ducking Tyson.

Do you ever get anything right on here?

Fury didn't become a Mandatory until he defeated Chisora for a final elimination bout in the rematch. Pulev was the mandatory before any of that.

Fury declined a Pulev fight in 2013 which would have made him a Mandatory much sooner but it's Klitschko who ran from Fury? What drugs are you Wilder fans on, it's like you have enough trouble talking about Wilder himself but then you step out and talk about boxing it becomes the land of the outlandish. Ha

[juggernaut666]

Klitchko beat up Wilder in sparring, that was in preparation for Pulev so do you really think Team Wilder would let him fight Klitchko ?

There were a lot of he said this and that , one just had to look at Wilders title defenses to get the answer.

[yankees7448]

Tyson Fury had 35 amateur fights and was calling out Klitschko when he was 22.... he chased him for 5 years and only wanted to fight the #1 guy in the division.

You're seriously deflecting here. Wilder is a 10 year pro with only one good (questionable) win on his record.

Shameful.

Good on Tyson Fury for using Klitchko's name to make him relevant when he wasn't and then backing up the talk by signing the contract and winning the fight.

[Vinnykin]

Good on Tyson Fury for using Klitchko's name to make him relevant when he wasn't and then backing up the talk by signing the contract and winning the fight.

And he even signed to fight Haye twice and lost 1 year of his career......

Fury just keep on using people to make a name for himself.... shameful!