Wilder is in a no win situation fighting Fury.

[Robbie Barrett]

He’s a new fan. He thinks the orgs have been along for longer than 50 years

When did i say that? Maybe in your alternative reality.

Why do you have people on ignore but still go in their threads and reply. You sensitive *****.

[Woodmanblue]

It's not a no win situation, as someone has already mentioned, this would make him the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the world. Something I personally put greater emphasis on than any belt, as it is traceable all the way back.

The reality for Deontay is that no one will give him credit for this win, UNLESS Tyson is at his confusing and bamboozling best.

In my opinion, mentally, Tyson is at his most tranquil, physically he is at his best.
If Deontay knocks him out (the only way he wins) then it is a legitimate win over a top heavyweight.

Then onto AJ for the undisputed.

[Robbie Barrett]

I still disagree with the number of tuneups Ray, I don’t know when we became so...careful I guess you’d say?

Tyson was in prison for years, awful diet, booze and drugs snuck in for him, 1 tune up.

Ali was suspended for 3 years, got fat, expected to never fight again: 2 tune ups.

I know fury had his breakdown, and I can relate, but if you need 5 tuneups you shouldn’t be boxing. IMO 2 is the perfect number. He seemed angry that sefari quit so soon because I think he beat wanted 24 rounds, but it is what it is. Props to both parties for giving us this fight.

And to the OP the only one in a “lose/lose” situation is AJ and Hearn. They were in the drivers seat and now Hearn is trying to save face in the media telling us the fight will never happen, and AJ’s social media is being flooded with people calling him a duck.

They didn't gain and lose 120lbs+ why are you so ******ed?

[Robbie Barrett]

It's not a no win situation, as someone has already mentioned, this would make him the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the world. Something I personally put greater emphasis on than any belt, as it is traceable all the way back.

The reality for Deontay is that no one will give him credit for this win, UNLESS Tyson is at his confusing and bamboozling best.

In my opinion, mentally, Tyson is at his most tranquil, physically he is at his best.
If Deontay knocks him out (the only way he wins) then it is a legitimate win over a top heavyweight.

Then onto AJ for the undisputed.

Nobody recognises Fury as lineal. Not ESPN, TBRB, The Ring. Nobody that keeps boxing ratings/rankings have Fury as lineal.

[Woodmanblue]

Nobody recognises Fury as lineal. Not ESPN, TBRB, The Ring. Nobody that keeps boxing ratings/rankings have Fury as lineal.

How can they not recognise him as Lineal champ? I'm confused. He beat the man. That's how it works.

[Robbie Barrett]

How can they not recognise him as Lineal champ? I'm confused. He beat the man. That's how it works.

He retired
Didn't fight for over 2 years
Got a ban for PED use

Take your pick.

[Woodmanblue]

He retired
Didn't fight for over 2 years
Got a ban for PED use

Take your pick.

Yea that's not how it works.

[Robbie Barrett]

Yea that's not how it works.

Yes that is how it works. If not Lennox Lewis is still lineal. I know you want to write your own reality, but "that's not how it works"

[Woodmanblue]

Yes that is how it works. If not Lennox Lewis is still lineal. I know you want to write your own reality, but "that's not how it works"

So you're saying Lennox is still Lineal champ?

[Robbie Barrett]

So you're saying Lennox is still Lineal champ?

Can you read? Neither Lewis or Fury are lineal anymore. They both retired and Fury has a ban for using steroids.