How does a unified champion with 4 belts in 22 fights get called a duck?

[SeGoodland]

If you are going to present one side of the scenario as the true one then don't be surprised when people ask what's up, seeing as it contradicts Joshua's career path. He takes more risks than Wilder and gets tougher people in the ring, that's a fact

It's far easier to believe Wilder never wanted the fight rather than Joshua when you consider both their careers and actions.

-Wilder claimed legacy was important, not money, then demanded 50/50.

-Wilder turned down $12.5m (5x his highest purse) to fight for all the belts (he called this slave money and what happened to legacy?)

-Wilder/Finkel made a bogus $50m offer with a 24hr deadline, refused to send a contract, cancelled 2 scheduled meetings, refused to tell anybody the fight had to be on BT Sport in the UK which was legally impossible for Joshua to accept (how many roadblocks here alone?)

-Wilder 'accepted' $15m with no rematch clause and then lost his pen as he waited for the WBA to enforce a mandatory, first claiming he wanted a rematch clause, and then claiming he needed a date and venue.

-WBA enforce mandatory and Wilder claims 50/50 or no fight again.

-Wilder goes on to sign a fight with Fury with no date or venue. Frank Warren admits he conspired with Finkel to get the Fury fight instead via the $50m bogus contract he helped put together for his network BT Sport.

-Wilder recieves a signed contract for April fight of $15m and doesn't sign it because Finkel claims it has Hearns signature rather than Joshua's (which is standard practice).

-Wilder recieves a new contract rumoured to be $20m minimum guaranteed or a percentage (whichever is higher) and a rematch clause. We have heard nothing since.


Me personally, I think I know who put the roadblocks up here. It's obvious.

There's a smear campaign gone on against Joshua by Wilders people and for a while they were winning the PR war and generating tons of Wilder fanboys to start trying to discredit Joshua but now people are seeing the truth come out.

Wilders people have removed many videos and articles from the internet that put Wilder in a bad light in an effort to sell him more. They want their cash out fight and the only way to do that is to big up Wilders name and try to tear down Joshua's.

This is the first time that I've seen a lot of counter arguments all on one post. Good work bringing that all together, It really puts a lot into perspective.

Hopefully, a lot of people will read this and just move on and fingers crossed that Wilder, Fury and Joshua all fight each other.

I believe that all of these need to taste defeat in order to grow.

[SeGoodland]

The idiot WBC WBA IBF was bringing that up.

The problem with that offer was BT's involvement. A problem i believe was purposely sort out to prevent a fight if Joshua accepted without seeing the terms.

Dude, good work in presenting the other side. I think there are a few things that Anti-Joshua/Hearn posters never put in the same post...

1. Some people always say that the $50m was real and that Eddie Hearn CONFIRMED that the money was there
BUT
2. They will happily then say to any post that is either neutral or presents a counter argument that quotes Hearn that 'Hearn talks rubbish' or 'You can never believe what that snake Hearn' says.
AND
WBC WBA IBF is always ****ing that drum. So I wouldn't let it get to you.

Boxing is boxing. Posters like WBC WBA IBF don't represent what we are all here for.

[Jax teller]

Why would Finkel make that meeting a priority when team Joshua first insisted that Wilder fight one of their stalemat es, then sent a ridiculously low offer, then named their price (50 million) then back peddled all to hell when their price was met, then sent a contract with no date?
Team Joshua just isn't interested in this fight right now. Hopefully that changes.

Why did Finkel agree to the meeting in the first place then if it waas so pointless? How do you think someone raises 50 mil he would have had to have gone through countless meetings, an you're okay with him passing on the last one he had booked in with Hearn to provide all the details for the fight and pin Hearn down because Finkel couldn't be bothered? Astounding.

[Boksfan]

I don't know. Wildher fangirls are just ******ed I think.

[SeGoodland]

I don't know. Wildher fangirls are just ******ed I think.

Love your work.

[Jax teller]

While you are right Hearn has tried to delay the fight for sure, so have Wilder's team. Neither side have been genuine in regards to their desire to make the fight as soon as possible.

Hearn has been delaying it to build interest in the fight he's admitted as much himself in previous interviews.

Wilder's team have dragged their feet, refusing meetings, making unrealistic financial demands, delaying proceedings either by not signing agreed contracts or waiting for Joshua's mandatories to be enforced before dis*****g details in contracts.

Wilder then signs a 2 fight deal with Fury which of course ensures the fight doesn't happen until at least late 2019.

Both sides should be equally criticised for their actions. But fanboys prefer to pick a side then accuse the other side of ducking.

Can't argue against this common sense without an agenda.

[Boksfan]

Love your work.

Thank you for your appreciation.

[Larry the boss]

there are only 4 major titles, why keep mentioning the IBO?

[Larry the boss]

floyd got called a duck and he was a 5 division ATG

[Earl-Hickey]

floyd got called a duck and he was a 5 division ATG

It was ****** then and its ****** now.