How does a unified champion with 4 belts in 22 fights get called a duck?

[Hov]

How is somebody with that credible of resume even allowed to be dissed? How can the public be so easily misled to eat up that narrative? And i'm not even dissing Wilder because I like Wilder too. The guy has fought 4 of the top 10 fighters in 22 fights. Like no one besides Loma and Usyk can say they've done that and those guys had more than 350 amateur fights compared to Joshua's 43. Wlad, Dillian Whyte, Povetkin, Joseph Parker, and he was scheduled to fight Pulev who pulled out of the fight. The only guy this dude has fought that wasn't in the top 20 was a replacement opponent in Takam.

[Redd Foxx]

You really think this is going to change anyone's perspective??
Most fans who say the whole thing play out, saw AJ ask for 50m, then reject it, saw Heard contradict himself dozens of times, and Heard B. Hearn say he did not want AJ fighting wilder for a while, can make their own conclusions.

IDK why people care so much. There's a lot of thin skinned AJ fans. I guess, when your HW champ is building up to a rematch with Whyte, while the guy you hate is facing Tyson Fury, it puts you in a bad spot as a fan.

[koolkc107]

One belt came from a guy who won it due to his opponent injuring himself in the fight.

Two belts were vacants, thrown in to further hype a fight with a 40 year old coming off a 2 year layoff.

One belt came from a snore fest against a champion who just might not have been as good as some thought.

Careful management to 4 belts doesn't mean the fighter is proven, especially when only one of them came in the ring vs a legit beltholder.

So, when folk hear that this 4 belt guy turned down a guaranteed 50 Million or that the 4 belt guy is lowballing the guy he probably should be paying the most of any of his championship fight opponents (since it will be THE biggest most lucrative fight either guy has ever had), well then...some folks might get the idea that 4 belt guy doesn't really want the fight, or at least his management doesn't.

[famicommander]

He won his belts against Charles Martin, a 40 year Wlad coming off a loss and an 18 month layoff, and Joe Parker.

Not that Wilder winning his against Stiverne is any better.

That's why they have to fight each other. Neither can be called the real champion until one beats the other (assuming neither loses beforehand).

[pillowfists98]

Wilder fans are awful. They justify Wilder fighting cans for the vast majority of his career but Joshua who has consistently taken risks is the one ducking. I don't know how anyone can buy the AJ is ducking story especially with Shelly Finkel's bull**** during the negotiations, delaying and refusing meetings. The way I see it, when Al Haymon and Wilder's people are actually serious about making the fight happen it will happen but not until then.

[pillowfists98]

One belt came from a guy who won it due to his opponent injuring himself in the fight.

Two belts were vacants, thrown in to further hype a fight with a 40 year old coming off a 2 year layoff.

One belt came from a snore fest against a champion who just might not have been as good as some thought.

Careful management to 4 belts doesn't mean the fighter is proven, especially when only one of them came in the ring vs a legit beltholder.

So, when folk hear that this 4 belt guy turned down a guaranteed 50 Million or that the 4 belt guy is lowballing the guy he probably should be paying the most of any of his championship fight opponents (since it will be THE biggest most lucrative fight either guy has ever had), well then...some folks might get the idea that 4 belt guy doesn't really want the fight, or at least his management doesn't.

Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko for one of his belts. The same Wladimir Klitschko who is one of the greatest HW champions of all time and who Wilder's team desperately kept him away from. Why was Wilder content to fight 30 bums in a row before stepping up??
Why did a 18 fight novice like Joshua fight Klitschko and Wilder never did?

[koolkc107]

Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko for one of his belts. The same Wladimir Klitschko who is one of the greatest HW champions of all time and who Wilder's team desperately kept him away from. Why was Wilder content to fight 30 bums in a row before stepping up??
Why did a 18 fight novice like Joshua fight Klitschko and Wilder never did?

Wlad was 40 and with zero belts when AJ fought him. And Wlad chose to fight AJ first when he could have definitely fought Deontay first instead. I don't blame Wlad because the risk vs reward kinda dictated AJ, the easier fighter with more money to offer.

[just the facts]

Wilder fans are awful. They justify Wilder fighting cans for the vast majority of his career but Joshua who has consistently taken risks is the one ducking. I don't know how anyone can buy the AJ is ducking story especially with Shelly Finkel's bull**** during the negotiations, delaying and refusing meetings. The way I see it, when Al Haymon and Wilder's people are actually serious about making the fight happen it will happen but not until then.

Why would Finkel make that meeting a priority when team Joshua first insisted that Wilder fight one of their stalemat es, then sent a ridiculously low offer, then named their price (50 million) then back peddled all to hell when their price was met, then sent a contract with no date?
Team Joshua just isn't interested in this fight right now. Hopefully that changes.

[Ray*]

Because most of them are fanatics. From the fake phantom 50m dollars offer with no meeting to rejecting two contracts that represent 5 times his usual payday, to taking 39 fights to actually fight a threat. Compare to a guy who did all of that in half that time and fights, to a guy who actually took the risk and earns ten times what Wilder earn. If you sit there and call Joshua a duck with all the evidence in front of you then you are a fanatical fanboy.

[just the facts]

Wlad was 40 and with zero belts when AJ fought him. And Wlad chose to fight AJ first when he could have definitely fought Deontay first instead. I don't blame Wlad because the risk vs reward kinda dictated AJ, the easier fighter with more money to offer.

Not to mention Wlad was 2years inactive and coming back a loss and still almost KOed Joshua.