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  • #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    Thank you for your uneducated, inexperienced amateur opinion, based on absolutely nothing than your own fantasies. I hope you enjoy AJ's next fight.
    Glad you've finally realised Sky has the rights to Joshua fights. Happy to educate you.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
      Glad you've finally realised Sky has the rights to Joshua fights. Happy to educate you.
      And Showtime has the rights to Wilder's fights. But if he accepted Hearn's offer, Hearn would own the promotion and could shop the fight. Since Wilder is the B-side, he had to seek Showtime's permission to take a fight off Showtime since Hearn refused to allow Showtime to match the highest offer.

      And if AJ had accepted Wilder's offer, Wilder's side would own the promotion and could shop the fight. Since AJ is the A-side, Wilder's side agreed the fight could be on Sky as long as they paid fair market value.

      I know this is all gibberish to you because you don't know anything about making fights. But please, by all means, enjoy AJ's fights. Be a fan. Are you a boxing fan or are you a promoter? Why are you pretending to understand how any of this works?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        And Showtime has the rights to Wilder's fights. But if he accepted Hearn's offer, Hearn would own the promotion and could shop the fight. Since Wilder is the B-side, he had to seek Showtime's permission to take a fight off Showtime since Hearn refused to allow Showtime to match the highest offer.

        And if AJ had accepted Wilder's offer, Wilder's side would own the promotion and could shop the fight. Since AJ is the A-side, Wilder's side agreed the fight could be on Sky as long as they paid fair market value.

        I know this is all gibberish to you because you don't know anything about making fights. But please, by all means, enjoy AJ's fights. Be a fan. Are you a boxing fan or are you a promoter? Why are you pretending to understand how any of this works?
        Can't shop the fight when Sky has the rights. This is basic common knowledge. That's how contracts work. Are you really this ******?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
          There's no doubt you're new to boxing. You can't even recognize competitive fights and can't decipher why a PP V should have actual competitive fights for 70 dollars.

          Anything in large amounts over 10 million has to have a income source proven .You have to be a real jerk not to ask the primary source and equity of someone claiming they have 50 million who puts a 24 hour deadline on it . Don King said no 50 million deal can made through e mails or no stipulations, but you the expert find that bizarre .

          This is where i think most of these fans are uneducated. If not you got to be a fanboy. Either one of those two. No way would any educated persons in this world believe "No meeting" to discuss that sort of offer.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            Can't shop the fight when Sky has the rights. This is basic common knowledge.
            You have no idea what basic common knowledge is. You're a fan. You watch fights on TV. You have no idea what is customary behind the scenes or how fights are negotiated.

            If AJ sells his services to PBC for $50 million, he needs to either get Sky's permission to take a one off on another platform, or make sure PBC is willing to cut a deal with Sky. PBC was willing to cut a deal with Sky as long as the deal was fair.

            Sky has rights to buy AJ's fights, but what the deal is for the fight depends on the opponent and various other factors. If PBC buys out AJ's services for one night, Sky would be paying PBC instead of AJ for that fight. You can't expect PBC to give you $50 million and not allow them to seek fair market value for the UK rights so they can try to make their money back.

            So the customary way to solve this would be to seek offers from other platforms to determine market value, then go to Sky and see if they'll match it.

            You insisted PBC only wanted to deal with BT, even though Finkel publicly insisted there was no problem putting it on Sky if Sky paid fair value. You insisted Finkel didn't say that and I proved you wrong. As always. Because you're a ****ing ****** fan and even a D-list promoter like me is going to understand better than you how network rights are typically navigated.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              This is where i think most of these fans are uneducated. If not you got to be a fanboy. Either one of those two. No way would any educated persons in this world believe "No meeting" to discuss that sort of offer.
              There was nothing to meet about. AJ didn't accept the offer. What was the purpose of the meeting?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                They were never stonewalled. They agreed to meet and then cancelled. Sent an offer and refused to show terms. Negotiated with a rival UK broadcaster, which would have made the fight impossible.

                I could say you're considered a bad poster, but i doubt anyone remembers you at all, i know i don't if i've ever discussed anything with you. I know from your posts you're a gullible Wilder **** gobbler though.

                I even forgot about that, they cancelled a meeting twice before the 50million dollar phanthom offer.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                  I even forgot about that, they cancelled a meeting twice before the 50million dollar phanthom offer.
                  The phantom offer that AJ and Hearn themselves admitted was legit?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    You have no idea what basic common knowledge is. You're a fan. You watch fights on TV. You have no idea what is customary behind the scenes or how fights are negotiated.

                    If AJ sells his services to PBC for $50 million, he needs to either get Sky's permission to take a one off on another platform, or make sure PBC is willing to cut a deal with Sky. PBC was willing to cut a deal with Sky as long as the deal was fair.

                    Sky has rights to buy AJ's fights, but what the deal is for the fight depends on the opponent and various other factors. If PBC buys out AJ's services for one night, Sky would be paying PBC instead of AJ for that fight. You can't expect PBC to give you $50 million and not allow them to seek fair market value for the UK rights so they can try to make their money back.

                    So the customary way to solve this would be to seek offers from other platforms to determine market value, then go to Sky and see if they'll match it.

                    You insisted PBC only wanted to deal with BT, even though Finkel publicly insisted there was no problem putting it on Sky if Sky paid fair value. You insisted Finkel didn't say that and I proved you wrong. As always. Because you're a ****ing ****** fan and even a D-list promoter like me is going to understand better than you how network rights are typically navigated.
                    No Sky doesn't have the right to buy AJ's fights. They have the rights to AJ's fights. Discussing if Sky would let him fight on another network is a waste of time, that wasn't happening, Haymon knew it which is why he negotiated with BT (didn't want the fight)

                    Finkel insisted? Easy to claim what would have been in the offer.

                    Nobody even knew until Warren revealed it months later. They wouldn't tell Hearn anything about the terms or negotiate.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      No Sky doesn't have the right to buy AJ's fights. They have the rights to AJ's fights.
                      They have to pay for them you ****ing idiot. You have no idea how this **** works. Watch the fights. Be a fan. You're a failure at anything else.

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