This should shut some of you American's up..

[Dirt E Gomez]

Even with fighters who are ducked throughout their career and looked upon as very high risk low reward, they still eventually get big shots at money and big title shots sooner or later. So Calzaghe is simply the exception to that rule? THe diamond in a the rough? Practically a mythical creature who is so godlike in the ring he can't be touched so every fighter avoids him?

[JuicyJuice]

this the Brewer with 11losses who already had lost to antwun echols in 3rounds two fights before

This proves that you people just look at boxrec, and haven't got a clue.

Brewer ANIHILATED Echols and got robbed (Echols gave Hopkins his toughest fight).

[PATO 1]

This proves that you people just look at boxrec, and haven't got a clue.

Brewer ANIHILATED Echols and got robbed (Echols gave Hopkins his toughest fight).

no no i have seen the fight myself yeah he went down 3times but he still stoppped him

[PATO 1]

or how about the infamous kabary salem or evans ashira or Tocker Pudwill or even Will McIntyre

[Bozo_no no]

Same old boring non sense Juy.

Calzaghe missed a number of fights in his own division over the years.

According to you and others like you that ride his sac, it was everyone's fault but Joe's.

The bottom line is that he sat in his own back yard fighting meidocre fighters almost his entire career.

He was in no position to be calling for fighters like Jones and Hopkins like he had a leg to stand on. He was an unproven homer who missed out on so many opportunities.

The notion that he's an avoided world beater who's been avoided all these years is pure fiction catered to you and the few like you who ride his sac.

The guy wasted the majority of his own career taking safe fights in his own back yard and never gave anyone a reason to regard him as an attractive opponent.

Get over it.

He had his first important big win earlier this year, and lets hope he builds on it. That's all there is to be said about him.

[LemonChiff]

juicey i dont think anybody denies that calzaghe has proved himself now, there was always a doubt about him because he wasn't coming to the mecca then started pulling out of fights with injuries, but the last fight proved us all wrong, proved he wasn't a faker.

the only reason he got so much critics over here was simply because it was clear he was extremely talented but just would not come over here, and appeared to fake injuries etc, we felt he was a waster but now he's looking fighter of the year if he gets the winky fight.

[LemonChiff]

ok lets pick that apart a lil bit

Eubank was weight drained and only trained for 9days plus he was never the same anyway after that Watson fight

Reid win was very controversial and i had reid up 2rounds

then people like Delaney,starie,veit, lol

this the woodhall who was a natural middleweight an already lost to keith holmes,markus beyer and retired after the JC fight

this the Brewer with 11losses who already had lost to antwun echols in 3rounds two fights before

and the same Giminez who beat a guy who 3-4 to win his world title fight yeah ok

BTW Omar Shekia has never won a big fight in his career and has 8losses

but the Lacy fiught was incredible

dont hate on charles brewer just for the sake of it, he had no amateur career to speak of and was taking fights on 24 hour notice because he never thought he could become a champion in boxing. boxing was his living. his first 6 losses really dont mean much, he caused an upset against rhodes then started training like a champion and became world class. rjj wanted nothing to do with the revitalised brewer, its a fact that he carefully dodged him.

[LemonChiff]

no no i have seen the fight myself yeah he went down 3times but he still stoppped him

you must be mad! there was an inquiry because the referee stopped brewer on his feet when brewer was in control of the fight. what fight were you watching? echols could barely stand at the end of the second, everybody had been screaming for the fight to be stopped because brewer was too strong for him.

[Piggu]

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[LemonChiff]

bozo no no what planet are you on? calzaghe was the best supermiddle by miles on evidence of the brewer fight alone, he beat eubanks in spectacular fashion if im not mistaken so that alone put him in position to challenge rjj seeing as eubanks was being mooted for that fight. first time i saw joe c was the brewer fight and i thought it would be just another overrated euro fighter, but calzaghe showed some serious skills that night and proved he was the best supermiddle out there by a long way.

on evidence of his last fight he would of taken them all, rjj, hopkins or any other kind you got. sit down and watch the calzaghe-lacy fight very carefully bozo, then come back and say that he couldn't challenge rjj or hops or anybody for that matter.