Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[Tyistall]

Alright now. First off, we don't actually know how many tickets have been sold for wilder vs fury. That number came from Hearn. The same Hearn who said he couldn't give tickets away to wilder vs Ortiz, yet it was the biggest boxing event at the Barclay before Thurman vs Garcia. We also know that wilder averages 1m views on Showtime and did 2m on network tv. So much for the wilder has no fans b.s. Besides that, this is the fight the entire world wants to see. So get off the played out fanboy excuse that wilder doesn't have a name. But since you bought it up, tell us......What is this awesome percentage that Hearn is suddenly offering wilder now that he has a fight lined up??? Tell us smart ass. Lol

OH my bad. I didn't know that 14k of fans was an amazing feat. I stand corrected. Did you know that Jack Dempsey used to fight in front of 100k fans back in the day? They used to have to build stadiums for him. Jack Johnson's fight would incite riots. Tyson, Ali these guys had no problem getting fans into the arenas. But then again, all of these fighters fought the best guys around. They didn't dodge every good fighter for ten years like Wilder did. Thats the real reason no one is coming to this fight. Wilder is a bum beating fraud who always comes up with an excuse as to why he can't fight the better fighters. AJ, Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, Miller, Whyte, there's always a reason why Wilder can't fight one of these guys, but he will fight a bum with no problem hahah. And you idiots are behind him on this. Wilder had 1 million people watching his fight, because they were FREE FIGHTS and not on PPV. All of us will watch a free fight but most of us won't pay that PPV unless it's worth it and Wilder vs Fury is not worth it at all.

[Mrbamladen]

Wtf dude ?

Are you ******ed ? Hearn and sky
asked for a contract to study it as Joshua is contracted to fight on sky in the uk and team Wilder
refused to send one and now you claim frank warren saw the contract they refused to send Hearn and Joshua.

Team wilder refused to send a contract so that means no fight can be made

Team Joshua sent a contract to make a fight

Don’t you see through all these lies warren and wilder are making for ducking

What don’t you understand ?

Then wilder makes some bs excuse after 4 weeks of silence that he wants a contract which he gets but then refuses as there is no venue or date apart from sometime in November and most likely in Cardiff and goes public which leads to the wba having enough and ordering the fight or stripping Joshua

Wilder then agrees a fight with no date and venue with fury lol

You are a nut hugger ignoring the clear evidence of wilder ducking in front of you

I’m done

No point in carrying
On when you are defying logic. Team wilder couldn’t send a contract to Joshua but could to warren according to you, warren who has nothing to do with the fight at all

Nice spin fanboy. But let me clarify....

Warren said he is friends with finkle and saw the contract that finkle, Haymon, and Espinosa drafted for team Joshua. He never said anything was sent to him. So stop the fanboy b.s. Again, Hearn never got a contract because he never agreed to the 50m. You know like how wilder got that contract with no date or venue AFTER he agreed to the 15m flat fee??? You know like how wilder and fury worked out the percentage THEN worried about a date and venue??? Same rules apply here fanboy. Also....are we suppose to believe the wba scrapped a unification fight because wilder wanted a date and venue??? It took two weeks to make the povetkin fight. Yet they were so impatient that they couldn't wait a few days for a signature from wilder??? Remember, Hearn said he sent the date on Monday which finkle said he'd have the signed contract by Friday. Yet come Tuesday the wba can't wait. Lol. Get the hell up outta here fanboy, and get your facts right before ever trying to talk boxing with me.

[Sid-Knee]

Lol at Hearn lying to fighters just to get them to sign. I hope Jacobs sees this interview and realize he’s being played. Had that man fighting in front of 3k people

There was nothing to sign. Ortiz was on a fight by fight basis.

Jacobs has never been denied a fight, nor has he ever been a ticket seller.

You Americans keep lying though you creepy weirdo's.

[jas]

Hearn making sure his fighters dont fight ortiz until he is 60 years old

[Sid-Knee]

nobody gives a damn that AJ can sell out a stadium to a bunch of drunks and casuals that came to sing while piss drunk. 80k tickets sold in the uk doesn't mean jack over half of those people don't even care about boxing. thats the truth.

Break down how they are all casuals at Joshua fights but Wilder gets the hardcore fans?

No one is allowed to get blind drunk at fights.

All ticket sales count. Trying to downplay it like all Americans do just shows how angry and bitter you freaks are. No nation produces more pathetic people the way you do. Sad how low you weirdo's are willing to go. Sinister and scary, that's what you are.

[Sid-Knee]

No Lies Detected.

Not one.

And I understand Wilder's take on AJ and largely agree with it.

To clarify, I don't think AJ is afraid of Wilder or any other heavy.

But, I DO think the folks managing AJ DO NOT want to see him fight Wilder or Ortiz, at least before a Fury fight- which they will also not make unless they can get Tyson to sign for peanuts.

Are there any Americans who aren't crazy? Wilder talks nothing but utter garbage. Only a ****** with **** for brains would take anything this fool says.

When has Joshua offered peanuts to opponents? Don't you mean offered them paydays way beyond anything they've had before or anything they could get in future? These drips should be thankful Joshua is in the division. He offers them money that secures their future way beyond their talents should allow.

[Mrbamladen]

OH my bad. I didn't know that 14k of fans was an amazing feat. I stand corrected. Did you know that Jack Dempsey used to fight in front of 100k fans back in the day? They used to have to build stadiums for him. Jack Johnson's fight would incite riots. Tyson, Ali these guys had no problem getting fans into the arenas. But then again, all of these fighters fought the best guys around. They didn't dodge every good fighter for ten years like Wilder did. Thats the real reason no one is coming to this fight. Wilder is a bum beating fraud who always comes up with an excuse as to why he can't fight the better fighters. AJ, Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, Miller, Whyte, there's always a reason why Wilder can't fight one of these guys, but he will fight a bum with no problem hahah. And you idiots are behind him on this. Wilder had 1 million people watching his fight, because they were FREE FIGHTS and not on PPV. All of us will watch a free fight but most of us won't pay that PPV unless it's worth it and Wilder vs Fury is not worth it at all.

Nice book. But what happened to the percentage question I asked about??? All this dribble is irrelevant at this point.

[Sid-Knee]

LMAO!!!!

Did you even watch the Scott fight?

It was a snoozer because one guy never even tried to fight while the other had to literally chase him around the ring.

Even so, Scott hit the canvas 6 times.

As for Allen, Ortiz dominated and stopped him faster than he has ever been stopped.

And BTW, since when is having less than great fights every single time a reason not to fight someone? You can eliminate at least half of most fighters resumes if that was the case.

Ortiz dominated Allen much more decisively than Povetkin beat china-chinned Price his fight prior yet that didn't stop AJ from fighting THAT mandatory. I didn't hear any fans talking about how that fight disqualified Povetkin from getting a shot. Yet, when Ortiz was a mandatory all we heard were excuses.

The IBF mandatory was called first when Ortiz was WBA mandatory. Joshua was trying to become undisputed, so why would he drop a title to fight Ortiz when he would have fought Ortiz next anyway? All Ortiz had to do was wait. But no, he went for the easier fight and much less money against Wilder. That's his problem.

And besides, Ortiz wouldn't have got the shot anyway because he was stopped from fighting due to failing another test and being removed from the WBA rankings. So it was a good job Joshua didn't drop the IBF for this fraud only to not get the fight anyway. Use your brain, ******. The fight wouldn't have happened anyway.

[aboutfkntime]

OK, so I guess I have to break it down even further for you. 4 belts>1belt, 90k fans >9k fans, 1 million PPV>100k PPV, 15 million>1-2 million. If you cannot understand this then there is no way I can get you to get it. AJ beats Wilder in every way possible so Wilder either takes his retirement money and gets KOed or he goes on fighting bums in half empty gyms for 1 million. 1 belt out of 5 doesn't get you 32% hahaha is that simple enough for you? ******

* sigh *

the number of belts held by Joshua (the A side) made no difference whatsoever to the earning potential, or to the split

fkn stoppit willya, that is ridiculous

FACT: Parker got 32.5%
FACT: Wilder > Parker, in EVERY department
FACT: Wilder OBVIOUSLY deserves more than Parker

until they offer Wilder 32.5% (minimum) they are talking shlt

[Ray*]

So.......when has aj ever made a guaranteed 50m plus ppv upside for one fight???? Besides that, wilder actually accepted the 15m flat fee to fight aj this year. It was Hearn who backed out of the fight, and suddenly had a date and venue to make the fight with povetkin.

Excuses... upon excuses. When all fails pull out the phantom 50 million dollars no meeting offer.