Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[Rubber Ducky]

Lol at Ortiz's manager trying to rewrite history to suit his agenda. It was well reported even before Joshua fought Molina and Ortiz fought Allen on that undercard that Joshua was looking for his next fight to be Wlad. All you need to do is google that to confirm it.

Either this story is BS or Ortiz is a total moron because it was common knowledge Wlad was next once the Molina fight was done.

And if Hearn was such a snake why are they contemplating signing with Hearn for a 3 fight deal once the Kaufmann fight is done?

So much spin and fake news, you'd have to be a fool to believe any of it.

[Tom Cruise]

I challenge anyone to watch Ortiz vs Scott and Ortiz vs Dave f**king Allen and come out of it not understanding why Ortiz didn’t get his shot at Joshua.

Those were 2 tee ups for Ortiz to smash out of the park, on Sky Sports in front of all Joshua’s fans, and he looked average in both.

[Boksfan]

You tell them Beyonce, war Beyonce!

[angkag]

All this talk that Joshua is a better fighter because he sells out stadiums is hogwash.

Never heard anyone say that. Skill as a boxer and ability to sell seats isn't always linked - Ward a good example.

As for who is the best HW, for me its either Wilder or Joshua, and I won't know which is the better until they fight. But if anyone says its Fury, thats ok too, we find out soon enough.

[OgTripleOg]

whilst joshua sells out stadiums

nobody gives a damn that AJ can sell out a stadium to a bunch of drunks and casuals that came to sing while piss drunk. 80k tickets sold in the uk doesn't mean jack over half of those people don't even care about boxing. thats the truth.

[Rubber Ducky]

I challenge anyone to watch Ortiz vs Scott and Ortiz vs Dave f**king Allen and come out of it not understanding why Ortiz didn’t get his shot at Joshua.

Those were 2 tee ups for Ortiz to smash out of the park, on Sky Sports in front of all Joshua’s fans, and he looked average in both.

Yep, china chinned Scott and a domestic level Brit heavy in Allen and he came out looking old and passed his best. Nobody in their right mind would of wanted Ortiz over Wlad next.

Luckily for Ortiz the vulnerability shown in those fight earned him a shot vs Wilder.

[Tom Cruise]

nobody gives a damn that AJ can sell out a stadium to a bunch of drunks and casuals that came to sing while piss drunk. 80k tickets sold in the uk doesn't mean jack over half of those people don't even care about boxing. thats the truth.

Nobody sells that many tickets to hardcore boxing fans ffs. Casuals make stars. Mayweather, Canelo, Pacquaio, Tyson, whoever.

The hate is real.

[Reverb]

nobody gives a damn that AJ can sell out a stadium to a bunch of drunks and casuals that came to sing while piss drunk. 80k tickets sold in the uk doesn't mean jack over half of those people don't even care about boxing. thats the truth.

Same goes for any PPV.
Money and the ability to draw money talks in the business of boxing. If you're into boxing and went pro, you might be aware of that.

[koolkc107]

No Lies Detected.

Not one.

And I understand Wilder's take on AJ and largely agree with it.

To clarify, I don't think AJ is afraid of Wilder or any other heavy.

But, I DO think the folks managing AJ DO NOT want to see him fight Wilder or Ortiz, at least before a Fury fight- which they will also not make unless they can get Tyson to sign for peanuts.

[uppercut510]

Oh man watch all the hearniacs come in protection mode lmao they are so predictable, hearn who is a promoter never lied or did anything wrong in their opinion.