Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[Noelanthony]

he got 6mil (pounds)

explain to me again why Martin's belt was worth WAAAY more than Parkers

He did?? I thought he got around 3 million.... damn 6 million. No wonder he went to the U.K.

[aboutfkntime]

Wow. I forgot Ortiz fought under the Matchroom Banner for a little bit. Just proves how much of a scumbag Hearn is. However I do believe that AJ would fight anyone put in front of him. Hearn is the obstacle that needs to be addressed. AJ better take control of his boxing career or he may end up being known as someone who ducked dangerous opponents in there prime.

nah that is bullshlt

Hearn is following Joshua's instructions to the letter

props for laying blame where it should be laid..... but Joshua is steering the ship..... not only have both Hearn and Joshua stated that on numerous occasions..... it is obvious, and is the same with every fighter EVER

this blaming of promoters needs to stop

every single fighter EVER is 100% accountable for his decisions and for his resume

[aboutfkntime]

Not another sad delusional American fan boy ...

Great heavyweights should be trying to win championships by 20 fights and unifying by thirty fights. Like all the US greats like the young bucks today ... minus Wilder .. who calls himself a baby heavyweight not ready for real work.

Wilder has consistently refused to put the work in and sit on easy wins, Own beck 23rd fight lost the last 6 !!! .. when AJ is unifying.
He's basically saying AJ you put all that work in now share your earnings with me yet when other fighters do that to him like Ortiz .. its oh no 20% to you Mr Ortiz .. hypocrite


If Wilder took half his oppurtunitys he'd be the A side getting 80% and boxing would be in a much better place.

As for why the last belt is worth less basic supply and demand the first belt is worth more and the last least .. Aj has belts to burn, he needed the first the most.

Parker got 32.5% because they actually wanted to fight Parker

not hard to understand if you try

[Mrbamladen]

Not another sad delusional American fan boy ...

Great heavyweights should be trying to win championships by 20 fights and unifying by thirty fights. Like all the US greats like the young bucks today ... minus Wilder .. who calls himself a baby heavyweight not ready for real work.

Wilder has consistently refused to put the work in and sit on easy wins, Own beck 23rd fight lost the last 6 !!! .. when AJ is unifying.
He's basically saying AJ you put all that work in now share your earnings with me yet when other fighters do that to him like Ortiz .. its oh no 20% to you Mr Ortiz .. hypocrite


If Wilder took half his oppurtunitys he'd be the A side getting 80% and boxing would be in a much better place.

As for why the last belt is worth less basic supply and demand the first belt is worth more and the last least .. Aj has belts to burn, he needed the first the most.

Lol. Oh man this is hilarious. Wilder spent his first 20+ fights fighting anyone who would step in the ring with him and took fights on 2 weeks notice. He didn't get an official ranking until he went to the UK and fought Harrison. He then called out fury and was blatantly ducked. He was also ducked by price, Jennings, Thompson, Solis, arreola, and several other fighters while we fought his way up to mandatory. Still had to wait for a year just to get his mandated title shot. Aj fought bums on UK ppv undercards and was up as a attraction. His career and his belts have been bought. He wasn't ready to fight wilder, but paid top dollar for the belt Martin won on a technicality. To this day....hes still not ready for wilder.

[Rubber Ducky]

Ortiz was supposed to be before Wlad, then next right after Wlad.

Neither happened. 2 ducks.

And, having it ordered didn't mean jack shyt when it was about fighting Ortiz:

IBF and WBA world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua has been ordered to fight mandatory challenger Luis Ortiz next.

Prior to Joshua’s historic April 29 fight with Wladimir Klitschko, the WBA announced that the winner would have to fight unbeaten Cuban Ortiz within 120 days.

Overnight the organisation released a statement confirming that Joshua’s team must now work with Ortiz’s team to come to an agreement, or else the fight goes to purse bids.

“The World Boxing Association Championships Committee ordered the teams behind British Anthony Joshua, current Heavyweight Champion, and Cuban Luis Ortiz, number one in the ranking at more than 200 pounds, to start negotiations for a fight between them,” their statement read.

“According to the resolution sent on January 11th, 2017, to both parties, it was reported that the winner of the Joshua-Klitschko fight, held on April 29th, 2017, had to face Ortiz after 120 days. 95 days have passed and, for this reason, the Championships Committee ordered to negotiate a fight between the British and Cuban boxers.

“Both parties were duly notified that, as of August 3rd, they have 30 days to reach an agreement or the fight will be called to purse bids.”

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anth...ht-luis-ortiz/

Ortiz was not meant to be after Molina, it was always meant to be Wlad before Ortiz as the article below proves as it's dated a month before the Molina fight.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a7409971.html

The article you posted only shows that Ortiz was mandated to fight Joshua on the 3rd of Aug, but Ortiz had already signed with Haymon in late March. Ortiz's manager says they signed with Haymon because Haymon advised Wilder the WBC champion which clearly shows an interest in fighting Wilder before his mandatory was mandated by the WBA.

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...haymon--115107

Then in mid July that year before the WBA mandated Ortiz's mandatory title shot reports emerge saying Wilder/Ortiz is all but signed, they've even already reserved the Barclays.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...center--118639

So pretty clear Ortiz was never in line to fight Joshua after Molina as it was well known Wlad was the main target, hell they tried to make the Wlad fight even before the Molina fight and Ortiz had all but signed the Wilder fight before he was mandated to fight Joshua.

These are the facts. But of course Ortiz after losing to Wilder now wants to twist it and say he was ducked. Everyone ducks Ortiz apparently, everyone but Ustinov that is who Ortiz twice pulled out of fights with.

[Tyistall]

Hold up!!!! Let me make sure my slow mind is getting this right. Parker deserved a percentage because aj had less belts??? Never mind the fact he had no fans, drummed up no interest, and was coming off boring fights. Yet wilder, who has the last belt aj needs to be undisputed, brings American fans, and is the guy the entire world wants aj to fight next deserves a flat fee??? Maybe my slow mind isn't working correctly. But could someone....anyone.....please make some sense of this for me. Lol. These fanboys are sad.

I'll help your slow mind for you. Wilder brings American fans??!?!?? The Wilder/Fury fight has only sold 8k in ticket sales hahahaha. The PPV will tank so Wilder doesn't bring ANY fans to this hahaha. He can't sell out a high school gym, let alone a soccer stadium so yeah, he deserves a flat fee. And no, Parker should not have got that % either but that's what happened. And as a matter of fact, they are offering Wilder a % now and he refuses to negotiate. His team won't talk to Hearn either so the fight is not happening, because of Wilder and his ****** team. Is that hard for you to understand, dumbass?

[Boxing Scene]

Ortiz is a proven steroid cheat like Clenelo. Who gives a **** if this 50 year old clown didn't get the fight he wanted. Stick to fighting C level champions like Red Balls and you'll be fine. Go ahead and get a few gift decisions first though.

[Boxingfan8888]

That's bull$#!t. Warren said he saw the contract. He never said he bankrolled anything. They didn't get a contract because they didn't agree to the initial payout. All they had to do way say.....yes. We accept the 50m plus ppv upside. Instead, Hearn wants to meet and see how they're gonna generate that kind of money for a fight Hearn himself said wouldn't make that much. People usually accept the pay before the contracts are sent. I'm sure wilder trust his team to find a date and venue for his fight more than he would trust Hearn. The same Hearn who couldn't get a September date because of canelo vs ggg 2, and who needed his fighter to have 12 weeks to train. Suddenly after he pulls out of negotiations he has a venue at wembley and in September for povetkin. But wilder should trust this guy huh??? Get outta here with the bs.

Wtf dude ?

Are you ******ed ? Hearn and sky
asked for a contract to study it as Joshua is contracted to fight on sky in the uk and team Wilder
refused to send one and now you claim frank warren saw the contract they refused to send Hearn and Joshua.

Team wilder refused to send a contract so that means no fight can be made

Team Joshua sent a contract to make a fight

Don’t you see through all these lies warren and wilder are making for ducking

What don’t you understand ?

Then wilder makes some bs excuse after 4 weeks of silence that he wants a contract which he gets but then refuses as there is no venue or date apart from sometime in November and most likely in Cardiff and goes public which leads to the wba having enough and ordering the fight or stripping Joshua

Wilder then agrees a fight with no date and venue with fury lol

You are a nut hugger ignoring the clear evidence of wilder ducking in front of you

I’m done

No point in carrying
On when you are defying logic. Team wilder couldn’t send a contract to Joshua but could to warren according to you, warren who has nothing to do with the fight at all

[aboutfkntime]

I'll help your slow mind for you. Wilder brings American fans??!?!?? The Wilder/Fury fight has only sold 8k in ticket sales hahahaha. The PPV will tank so Wilder doesn't bring ANY fans to this hahaha. He can't sell out a high school gym, let alone a soccer stadium so yeah, he deserves a flat fee. And no, Parker should not have got that % either but that's what happened. And as a matter of fact, they are offering Wilder a % now and he refuses to negotiate. His team won't talk to Hearn either so the fight is not happening, because of Wilder and his ****** team. Is that hard for you to understand, dumbass?

FACT: Parker got 32.5%
FACT: Wilder OBVIOUSLY deserves more than Parker

so..... until they offer Wilder 32.5% (minimum) they are talking shlt, and so are you

[SUBZER0ED]

Martin was a beltholder who won a vacant title due to injury. Yes, it was AJ's first opportunity to be called a champion but he didn't leave the ring after that fight as any more a draw than he entered it.

AJ would have gotten a Wlad fight before Deontay anyway because Wlad saw him as the easier opponent...and it certainly looked that way at points during their fight.

Parker was a unification and the first viable champion AJ faced who was in his prime. It is AJ's biggest selling fight to date and one where he got at least 67% of the money.

Yeah, you are right.

Folks have to be really thick not to understand basic stuff like that.

Not true. It's pretty well-known that Wlad hurt Deontay during their sparring matches. That's why you never heard him call out Wlad. Klitschko wanted Joshua because he wanted to win his belts back.