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  • #41
    Originally posted by OgTripleOg View Post
    nobody gives a damn that AJ can sell out a stadium to a bunch of drunks and casuals that came to sing while piss drunk. 80k tickets sold in the uk doesn't mean jack over half of those people don't even care about boxing. thats the truth.


    Oh that Wilder would have such drunk fans to pay for his fight! Give Joshua some credit. He earned it

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    • #42
      Originally posted by wildman View Post
      don't forget, ray.......wilder was ready to fight both povetkin and ortiz quite some time ago.... Until they tested positive for peds. He can only fight who's available and willing to face him.
      they will never take these things into consideration, also they act as if parker didnt sway wilder to fight aj, they will just ask "who has wilder fought while aj fought all the elite"

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      • #43
        Originally posted by split decision View Post
        its to be expected when ur the king of the division
        usyk is the only one who can claim hes the king of his division, nobody is the king of the hw division until all these guys fight, but it seems like instead of demanding the fights we need to see, aj fans are happy with seeing him get rich and fill stadiums while defending everything eddie hearn says. I get it but its getting old. Hopefully by the end of 2019 we will know who the king of the division is.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
          I challenge anyone to watch Ortiz vs Scott and Ortiz vs Dave f**king Allen and come out of it not understanding why Ortiz didn’t get his shot at Joshua.

          Those were 2 tee ups for Ortiz to smash out of the park, on Sky Sports in front of all Joshua’s fans, and he looked average in both.
          LMAO!!!!

          Did you even watch the Scott fight?

          It was a snoozer because one guy never even tried to fight while the other had to literally chase him around the ring.

          Even so, Scott hit the canvas 6 times.

          As for Allen, Ortiz dominated and stopped him faster than he has ever been stopped.

          And BTW, since when is having less than great fights every single time a reason not to fight someone? You can eliminate at least half of most fighters resumes if that was the case.

          Ortiz dominated Allen much more decisively than Povetkin beat china-chinned Price his fight prior yet that didn't stop AJ from fighting THAT mandatory. I didn't hear any fans talking about how that fight disqualified Povetkin from getting a shot. Yet, when Ortiz was a mandatory all we heard were excuses.

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          • #45
            Ortiz fought like a clown . twice

            Didn’t help his cause when Chisora tore Scott a new arzhole

            Let’s not get it twisted Ortiz gets hype because it’s wilders best win .... in 40 fights

            Guys a straight fraud trying to cash out

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            • #46
              No one can defeat the mighty King Kong!

              Not even Travis Kauffman!

              War King Kong!

              TBE!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by bluemax View Post
                All this talk that Joshua is a better fighter because he sells out stadiums is hogwash. Joshua is the most protected fighter in the heavyweight division. The real reason he has avoided Ortiz and his PR people talk about how old Ortiz is to cover for him is his chin is suspect. Joshua's big claim to fame is ONLY his win over a slow, old, rusty already beaten Klitchko. He has so many belts because the heavyweight division is so thin he fought tomato cans no real threats that could punch and were his size. He has avoided any really credible big heavyweights who could punch. Ortiz would knock him out and cudos to his management team who knows this and avoids any talk of fighting Ortiz or Wilder. This lame crap of offering insulting purses then claiming the real competition don't want to fight him is baloney. If he's so good lets see a 50-50 fight without a rematch clause. NOPE! Instead hire a few folks to throw insults and stay safely tucked away in England while the real fighters fight each other. Whose next Joshua? Maybe go after Canelo or does he punch to hard for ya?
                The issue I have is how can you look at Joshua’s 22 fight resume then wilders 40+ fight resume and then turn around and say Joshua has been protected. Honestly you should be embarrassed writing such bs

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                • #48
                  AJ cant beat Ortiz his own promoter would've matched them already. NO ONE THINKS AJ BEATS ORTIZ OR FURY.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bossman15 View Post
                    Let's be honest here Joshua's claim to fame in this is winning that IBF belt from Martin who fraudulently won it from Glazkov with them not being able to continue in the 3rd plus his resume is not the best either.

                    Plus ask yourself why did Joshua pass on the Ortiz fight and why did he say he would fight Miller in Brooklyn but not Wilder or at least Fury before April 13 it seems to me that all roads leads to Wilder in this situation because they are making every excuse to not make the fight period
                    When did he pass on the Ortiz fight. This is false.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by fantasy5021 View Post
                      Joshua is still a little green IMO. I know he beat a few guys like klitchko and parker but still those fights were not easy. Wilder beats him and really i think ortiz beats him. I would love to see him fights ortiz first before wilder.
                      Wouldn't you like to see wilder fight whyte before AJ?

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