So Spence refused Vada testing for Mikey fight

[Chollo Vista]

Biggest welterweight in the division and fights a lightweight next

But made the following excuses for a life long MW that fought a WW moving up 2 weight classes:

When Gennady Golovkin was 18 years old he fought at Light Welterweight (141lb) in the amateurs.

Andre Ward fought at Middleweight (165lb) and Light Heavyweight (176lb) in the amateurs at the age of 18.
When Ward turned pro, he had a couple fights at MW (160lb)

When Canelo was 18 years old, Canelo fought at Welterweight in the Pros. (147lb)

When Kell Brook was 18 years old, Brook fought at Welterweight (147lb) in the Pros.

There is that myth that some fighters moved up alot in weight and some others did not.

Golovkin was in the Kazakh amateur program and didn't turn pro until age 24.
Ward turned pro at Age 20.
Brook and Canelo were already in the Professinal Rankings at age 18.

Summary
Age 18 and now, how much did each fighter move up?

Golovkin 141lb > 160, moved up 19lb
Ward 165-176lb > 168-175, moved up 0lb
Brook 147lb > 147-160, moved up 13lb
Canelo 147lb > 154-155, moved up 8lb

Ward, after turning pro, had a couple fights at MW (160lb), which would put Ward at moving up 15lb from his lowest weight.

Maybe that cleared up some myths up that are out there.

If you think GGG vs Brook is a mismatch and you are 100% sure GGG will win, how much are you betting on the fight? You can make a ton of money because oddsmaker and casinos see this fight alot closer than you pretend or want to make others believe.

GGG by knockout/TKO/DQ is 3:1, you surely want some free money?





The real mismatch is Canelo vs Liam Smith according to actual odds and yet you try to downplay GGG vs Brook?

GGG Brook is much closer than GGG vs Eubank/Saunders/Jacobs, who all opened at about 1:10 when they were listed

Post prove of your bets on this fight or do you hate money?

If you're just a typical hater, better shut up.

First of all:

I am not a big fan of that fight, i am just trying to be logical.

Would have preferred GGG to fight Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs or Eubank.

I hope they grow some balls in due time!



I know the Anti GGG Agenda is in full force, but what about some food for thoughts about the situation.

GGG needed an opponent, quick, very quick. Eubank pulled out for a fight in 8 weeks.

Looking at 160
GGG called out everyone. Every top middleweight ducked him.

Looking at 168
Zurdo has an injury, out for 5 months.
DeGale and Jack have a unification at the end of the year.

Looking at 154
Andrade wants to unify first and face GGG for big $$$ in 2-3 years.
Lara talks big on twitter and in interviews, never once his team contacted K2, also has no fans, also gets no $$ from HBO. Also his own promoter says fight cannot happen because of "TV problems":

DiBella would like to see @GGGBoxing fight a true welterweight or a heavier opponent. When I asked about Jacobs or Lara, told "TV problems."

— Lance Pugmire (@latimespugmire) July 8, 2016

Charlo bros want nothing to do with GGG.

Looking at 147
Brook, ranked #1 at 147, undeafeated, huge at the weight, steps up and takes the deal Eubank declined, HBO already had the UK deal with K2 and Matchroom ready and needed a willing opponent for a fight in 8 weeks.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. Probs to Kell Brook for knocking out all the cowards with one shot and giving the GGG Antis a meltdown.

Marvin Hagler, one of the ATG MWs, his biggest fights were against the best guys from lower weights (Duran, Hearns, and Sugar Ray Leonard, who was a huge welterweight like Brook who actually defeated Marvin Hagler)

[pasawayako]

Still no ped experts here? lmao.

[MONGOOSE66]

I wonder if this is true. Like to hear it from Spence’s mouth.

[1hourRun]

Man... Look at Jamaica's two great sons.

Out of curiosity, who they B?

[Barristan]

Both of his parents are Jamaicans. He has even visited here with his daughter when she was a baby.

And y'all know anything with Jamaican connection has me firmly behind them.

Nope just his father is Jamaican...stop trying to claim him bruh

[Barristan]

http://vada-testing.org/errol-spence/

[deanrw]

http://vada-testing.org/errol-spence/

That was from the Brook fight. He has not done Vada testing since.

[Chuckguy]

Sorry but suspect until proven otherwise

[Combat Talk Radio]

There's only one reason why you'd deny drug testing; because you are using.

spence turned down testing. The only reason you would do that is that spence is using PEDs.

Hmm. So you both agree that in 2009-2010, when Manny turned down/denied drug testing requested by Floyd, it was because he was using PEDs, ultimately tanking the fight. Right?

[dan_cov]

Man this pisses me off. WTF

Why? lol
He's not the only fighter I am a fan of that I personally deem as suspect.

In fact I'll go as far as to say I think just about all these guys at world level are using some ****.