Another Dannie Jacobs fight without the Watsons in his corner...

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  • killakali
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    #41
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    If he wants to fight Canelo, why wouldn't he sign with Golden Boy?
    He could or just stay with Hearn. Then he gets Andrade too

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      #42
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      Sight three examples out of 100? Okay, you are truly clueless. Believe what you want. Just pay closer attention now to who breaks what stories and what kind of stories they break. Pay attention to if they come from the same promoter or different ones.
      why site any of that. coppinger is wrong all the time

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        #43
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        You really have no way of knowing that.
        Yes I do. The fact that Dannie was fighting Luis Arias and Suleckis and never fought Charlo tells you all you need to know. The fact that Khan is fighting tune ups in UK and will fight Brook tells you that.

        The fact that Haymon made SURE that he won the purse bid for Stevenson Gvozdyk yet didn't EVEN MAKE A BID on Beterbiev vs Koelling tells us that.

        Any knowledgeable fan can see where Haymon has influence and where he doesn't. Stevenson is with Michel but I would bet you 10k the Watsons will be in his corner vs Gvozdyk. Funny how they weren't for Khan, Jacbos, or Beterbiev.

        We do know that. Haymon thinks us fans are ****** but most of us see thru that expect for a few pbc nutsack riders

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          #44
          Originally posted by killakali
          why site any of that. coppinger is wrong all the time
          He is? Okay... And Dan isn't wrong? Aka Whyte/Ortiz is happening? How about him "hearing" FOX wants an exclusive deal with the PBC and the budget is far less than the current SHO deal? Do you know how ****** that even sounds? So yeah, Dan isn't right all the time either. And with his platform and name, Dan doesn't break nearly as many stories as he should. In fact, he hardly breaks any stories. Look at Adam Schefter or Woj. Unrealistic to expect Dan to be on that level, but he really should be breaking more stories. He doesn't. Right now Coppinger breaks far more stuff than him. And that has to do with him having good relationships with Hearn/TR/GBP/PBC.

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            #45
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            He is? Okay... And Dan isn't wrong? Aka Whyte/Ortiz is happening? How about him "hearing" FOX wants an exclusive deal with the PBC and the budget is far less than the current SHO deal? Do you know how ****** that even sounds? So yeah, Dan isn't right all the time either. And with his platform and name, Dan doesn't break nearly as many stories as he should. In fact, he hardly breaks any stories. Look at Adam Schefter or Woj. Unrealistic to expect Dan to be on that level, but he really should be breaking more stories. He doesn't. Right now Coppinger breaks far more stuff than him. And that has to do with him having good relationships with Hearn/TR/GBP/PBC.
            i never said Rafael doesn’t report wrong info. They all at times including Kevin and lance. I’m just saying don’t act like Coppinger is the best. This is the same guy who called Rigo an exciting fighter lmao

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              #46
              Originally posted by killakali
              i never said Rafael doesn’t report wrong info. They all at times including Kevin and lance. I’m just saying don’t act like Coppinger is the best. This is the same guy who called Rigo an exciting fighter lmao
              That's him having an opinion...And in this case a bad one. Doesn't mean he doesn't break the most stories right now, because he does. Well, him and Lance. Pick one from the two. They break more on average than Dan...Who does nothing but boxing so that makes it more embarrassing. You have both Pugmire/Coppinger covering other sports and still breaking stories.

              This started with you questioning the Coppinger article on the Haymon quote. Because you didn't like it or agree with it, you tried to say he isn't good or he doesn't know this or that blah blah. Then tried saying he piggybacks Rafael. Plenty of respectable guys like Cliff Rold and Jake Donovan give Coppinger his dues for breaking more stories than anyone.

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                #47
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                That's him having an opinion...And in this case a bad one. Doesn't mean he doesn't break the most stories right now, because he does. Well, him and Lance. Pick one from the two. They break more on average than Dan...Who does nothing but boxing so that makes it more embarrassing. You have both Pugmire/Coppinger covering other sports and still breaking stories.

                This started with you questioning the Coppinger article on the Haymon quote. Because you didn't like it or agree with it, you tried to say he isn't good or he doesn't know this or that blah blah. Then tried saying he piggybacks Rafael. Plenty of respectable guys like Cliff Rold and Jake Donovan give Coppinger his dues for breaking more stories than anyone.
                when he breaks stories that he deserves credit for then good for him. But he isn't at the top of the food chain.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  when he breaks stories that he deserves credit for then good for him. But he isn't at the top of the food chain.
                  Okay, so if he isn't at the top of the food chain, he sure is on the short list of the food chain. That part is not debatable. So once again, what was your point here? You didn't like he said Jacobs and Derevyanchenko were advised by Haymon?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    He could or just stay with Hearn. Then he gets Andrade too
                    Would be much easier to get Andrade without being with Hearn than it would be to get Canelo without being with Golden Boy.

                    If Jacobs is truly a free agent, Matchroom seems like the worst option. If the goal is Canelo or bust, you sign with Golden Boy to maximize the chances of getting Canelo. If the goal is the highest guarantee possible per fight, PBC would outbid Matchroom, just like they've done with all the top PBC fighters Matchroom has gone after.

                    Jacobs went to HBO to get GGG and Canelo and Hearn delivered neither. I'm not saying he'll leave Hearn, but I'm not convinced he'll stay either. Don't underestimate Arum either. Arum is being very aggressive going after GGG and Jacobs would be a natural opponent for GGG now that he has a belt.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Would be much easier to get Andrade without being with Hearn than it would be to get Canelo without being with Golden Boy.

                      If Jacobs is truly a free agent, Matchroom seems like the worst option. If the goal is Canelo or bust, you sign with Golden Boy to maximize the chances of getting Canelo. If the goal is the highest guarantee possible per fight, PBC would outbid Matchroom, just like they've done with all the top PBC fighters Matchroom has gone after.

                      Jacobs went to HBO to get GGG and Canelo and Hearn delivered neither. I'm not saying he'll leave Hearn, but I'm not convinced he'll stay either. Don't underestimate Arum either. Arum is being very aggressive going after GGG and Jacobs would be a natural opponent for GGG now that he has a belt.
                      At the end of the day he will stay with DAZN and likely Hearn. Thats the biggest fights for him.

                      i Think GGG is destined for ESPN but more so for Loefflers other fighters. We shall see

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