Comments Thread For: Garcia-Commey Not Next; Garcia-Spence Negotiations Progressing

[killakali]

Just so we're clear, you're suggesting that PBC will pull in north of $16M (8M for the fighters not including the live gate revenue) in PPV buys per event over a three month window.

That doesn't sound unsuccessful to me lol

I think people need to accept what we're witnessing. People said PBC didn't have a viable business model, but it's looking more and more like UFC everyday. Huge content deal ($125M annually) and consistent PPV revenue (at least $24M from Dec - Feb for the fighters based on your assumption).

the pbc business model was hashtag #freeboxingforall. The pbc model failed so now they do over half of their fights on premium network showtime and will have by far the most ppvs and will charge the fans more of their hard earned money than anything other promoter.

This new sho/fox/ppv model may very well work but it’s not the pbc model.

[R_Walken]

make the fights on sho. Why should I have to pay extra? DAZN and sho cost the sae. Those ain’t ppv fights

No ones forcing you to buy , if you don’t feel it’s worth it don’t buy , don’t cry about it though .

But fighters expect to be be paid over and above what they’d usually get in these types of fights so PPV usually in order

Garcia / Spence are both prime unbeaten P4P talents

Fury /Wilder are both prime unbeaten HW and 2/3 of the kings of the division

And PAC / Broner both have crossed over to not just casuals but to non boxing fans so might as well maximize revenue

All are great fights and if they’re PPV then that’s what it is. I don’t have a problem with any of them being on PPV andnwill probably buy all 3

If you choose not to and are happy watching Canelo /Feilding , Fury /Pulev , Vargas /Dulhorme, Rios /Alvarez , and those caliber of fights for $120 per year then all power to
You don’t order them

[champion4ever]

the pbc business model was hashtag #freeboxingforall. The pbc model failed so now they do over half of their fights on premium network showtime and will have by far the most ppvs and will charge the fans more of their hard earned money than anything other promoter.

This new sho/fox/ppv model may very well work but it’s not the pbc model.

The PBC model in which you speak of was before they had a platform. Now they have multiple platforms in Showtime, Fox and FS1.

Therefore, don't be surprised if Al Haymon no longer lease out anymore of his product (fighters) to different promoters like Eddie Hearn in order to advance their platforms like DAZN. It's because now Eddie Hearn and him are now rivals and competitors. They are both under the same pressures to produce boxing cards for their various platforms.

In addition, Al Haymon has his own platform that he must expand now in order fill out enough dates to satisfy his own television deals. Therefore, he need enough product to go around.

[killakali]

No ones forcing you to buy , if you don’t feel it’s worth it don’t buy , don’t cry about it though .

But fighters expect to be be paid over and above what they’d usually get in these types of fights so PPV usually in order

Garcia / Spence are both prime unbeaten P4P talents

Fury /Wilder are both prime unbeaten HW and 2/3 of the kings of the division

And PAC / Broner both have crossed over to not just casuals but to non boxing fans so might as well maximize revenue

All are great fights and if they’re PPV then that’s what it is. I don’t have a problem with any of them being on PPV andnwill probably buy all 3

If you choose not to and are happy watching Canelo /Feilding , Fury /Pulev , Vargas /Dulhorme, Rios /Alvarez , and those caliber of fights for $120 per year then all power to
You don’t order them

Exactly bro. For $120 a year I get every Canelo, Matchroom and golden boy promotions Card in a year and Canelo’s fights are way bigger than the three pbc ppv fights. Plus I can throw in $50 more a year and get every top rank, Frank Warren, Teiken,Zanfer plus some other random foreign cards in a year besides other sports.

So for $170 which is less than those three ppv cards I get at least 54 seed on espn and 44 on DAZN including Joshua and Canelo. I know what the smart consumer would buy.

[killakali]

The PBC model in which you speak of was before they had a platform. Now they have multiple platforms in Showtime, Fox and FS1.

Therefore, don't be surprised if Al Haymon no longer lease out anymore of his product (fighters) to different promoters like Eddie Hearn in order to advance their platforms like DAZN. It's because now Eddie Hearn and him are now rivals and competitors. They are both under the same pressures to produce boxing cards for their various platforms.

In addition, Al Haymon has his own platform that he must expand now in order fill out enough dates to satisfy his own television deals. Therefore, he need enough product to go around.

haymon never leased any guys out to DAZN. Jessie Vargas, Beterbiev and his promoter, Khan, Jacobs all went to Matchroom because they chose to. Haymon didn’t Broner those deals. He would have wanted to keep them all on showtime at the time before fox was an option but they all made their own business decision

[R_Walken]

Exactly bro. For $120 a year I get every Canelo, Matchroom and golden boy promotions Card in a year and Canelo’s fights are way bigger than the three pbc ppv fights. Plus I can throw in $50 more a year and get every top rank, Frank Warren, Teiken,Zanfer plus some other random foreign cards in a year besides other sports.

So for $170 which is less than those three ppv cards I get at least 54 seed on espn and 44 on DAZN including Joshua and Canelo. I know what the smart consumer would buy.

Canelo /Feilding is sh.it
Matchroom USA cards have been luke warm at best
GB stable is barren to make good fights
And ESpn + shows mostly half decent European cards

None of those are the best fighting the best

So far the only fights I’d consider decent on DAZN / ESPn are Bellew/Usyk And once the 2nd round of the WBSS starts besides that there’s not much killer

So your paying for avg fights , nothing great none of the best fighting the best

I care about the best ftime curing the best that’s why I’ll pay for those PPVs because that’s what they are , you disagree cool have fun watching Canelo curb stomping Feilding

[RomanReigns]

Mikey should just fight Lomachenko. It's a more winnable fight for him.

[Shadoww702]

No ones forcing you to buy , if you don’t feel it’s worth it don’t buy , don’t cry about it though .

But fighters expect to be be paid over and above what they’d usually get in these types of fights so PPV usually in order

Garcia / Spence are both prime unbeaten P4P talents

Fury /Wilder are both prime unbeaten HW and 2/3 of the kings of the division

And PAC / Broner both have crossed over to not just casuals but to non boxing fans so might as well maximize revenue

All are great fights and if they’re PPV then that’s what it is. I don’t have a problem with any of them being on PPV andnwill probably buy all 3

If you choose not to and are happy watching Canelo /Feilding , Fury /Pulev , Vargas /Dulhorme, Rios /Alvarez , and those caliber of fights for $120 per year then all power to
You don’t order them

Im definitely buying Fury/Wilder and Garcia/Spence all with zero loses.

Ill probably buy Pac/Broner if they have a decent card but both those guys are on the downside now days.

[R_Walken]

Im definitely buying Fury/Wilder and Garcia/Spence all with zero loses.

Ill probably buy Pac/Broner if they have a decent card but both those guys are on the downside now days.

Agree 100%

Wilder /Fury to me is must watch

If Spence /Mikey gets made I’m down. Yeah Mikey has a huge mountain to climb but I view Mikey as having the most skill in the sport let’s see how he does . but I’d rather watch 2 prime undeafted P4P guys fight each other over Spence /Collozo and Garcia /Commey

Agree about PAC /Broner , I’m not even a fan of either and both are past their best and let’s be honest Broner was never great to begin with but you know AB will sell the fight . Minus the Horn robbery PAC only loses to HOF opponets but his scalp is for the taking at his age and his commitment to the sport .Sh.it Broner going against his idol is this going to be the fight AB doesn’t disappoint, I doubt it i expect him to get lit up or at least not be able to deal with PAC and stay inactive during the fight not letting his hands go. But there’s enough intrigue in the fight for me to purchase. PBC has a deep enough talent pool to stack a undercaRd so let’s see how it plays out

[killakali]

Canelo /Feilding is sh.it
Matchroom USA cards have been luke warm at best
GB stable is barren to make good fights
And ESpn + shows mostly half decent European cards

None of those are the best fighting the best

So far the only fights I’d consider decent on DAZN / ESPn are Bellew/Usyk And once the 2nd round of the WBSS starts besides that there’s not much killer

So your paying for avg fights , nothing great none of the best fighting the best

I care about the best ftime curing the best that’s why I’ll pay for those PPVs because that’s what they are , you disagree cool have fun watching Canelo curb stomping Feilding

wtf? Pac-broner isn’t the best vs the best lololol. Bribers notbevrn a top 10 welter. Actually he’s not a welter he got dominatedvabd dripped down to 140. Even at a catchweight he couldn’t beat a weight drained Vargas and deserved an L in that fight.

Wilder-Fury would have been the best vs the best 3 years ago.

I prefer Crawford Horn Berchelt Roman Vargas Dulorme Beterbiev Johnson yo washed Pac vs never was anything Boner. Or mikey who couldn’t hurt anyone at 140 vs Spence.

Give me spence vs crawford Porter or thurman or its just a big yawn.