Comments Thread For: Hearn: We Want Wilder, We're Consistently Making The Effort

[uppercut510]

if we know no serious negotiations will happen until after the fury fight why do we have to constantly hear this from hearn?

[JWHardin]

Your reading skills are ***t buddy this is about saying boxers are ducking. Think about how many fights AJ has had and what he has achieved. When new WBC champion Wilder was (33-0, 32KOs) His co manger saids "He is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. he goes onto say
there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills. Your calling AJ and Whyte duckers but they have their own agendas and fights to make. I ask you to consider where Wilder is and why he did not go for those fights,
but it is OK he never chased them to unify as he was not ready he was not ducking, he was not scared just not ready. So Wilders not ready and AJ is ducking......

and Hearn went to USA to talk about the guaranteed 80 million etc offer but they would not meet him, he had to agree to the deal firsts with no details and nothing in writing. There was Nothing stopping Wilders team continuing with that offer to make it work and explain/meet negotiate with Hearn and AJ but no they had to agree to it without seeing it...at the end of the day it is just politic's about money and looking after your fighters, it is not about ducking and cowards. For example what does Ortiz bring, no money thats for sure and a mere chance of being next to fight Wilder in about a years time aside from a risky fight. Whyte via Hearn offered Wilder 7 million in the end to Wilder about 3 times more than any of his previous fights
pay cheque, in fact what he asked for after turning down the first offer. So a risky fight (in Wilders eyes an easy fight) and the rewards money was there...we wont mention ducking again re why this fight did not take place, as it was about money Wilder will not take risks unless the big payoff is there hence Fury and eventually AJ fights.

About what I figured. (you couldn't prove your claim) None of the guys you mentioned made an offer. Carry on.

[JWHardin]

Your're grasping at straws now editiing your post isntead of replying. Frank Warren came out with this after AJ turned down the offer saying he'd been working with Finkel all along (strange how the Fury fight happened to come out of no where). He also said a contract had been sent which I think most would agree didn't happen.

Also Finkel or Wilder have never mentioned it which is very strange if there was a rematch added for such a large amount considering they are the ones making the fight.

As far as I know, none of us here has seen anything in writing from either side. Believe what you want to believe. I thought Warren would be a neutral party to shed light on it, and knows more than we do.

[Jax teller]

As far as I know, none of us here has seen anything in writing from either side. Believe what you want to believe. I thought Warren would be a neutral party to shed light on it, and knows more than we do.

Lol Warren is clearly not a neutral party but this would've have been beneficial for Finkel to have stated it to make it clear AJ ducking rediculous money, instead of being humble and down playing it to 50 mil. So it clearly wasn't 80 mil as it only made the headlines when Frank was slating Hearn and AJ.

[JWHardin]

Lol Warren is clearly not a neutral party but this would've have been beneficial for Finkel to have stated it to make it clear AJ ducking rediculous money, instead of being humble and down playing it to 50 mil. So it clearly wasn't 80 mil as it only made the headlines when Frank was slating Hearn and AJ.

What if the $80 million guaranteed wasn't on the table? Does that make it look so much better just ducking a guaranteed $50 million plus 50% of the PPV? It was a clear duck no matter how you spin it, and he turned down the highest guaranteed purse in boxing history. (because he didn't want to fight away from home)

[Jax teller]

What if the $80 million guaranteed wasn't on the table? Does that make it look so much better just ducking a guaranteed $50 million plus 50% of the PPV? It was a clear duck no matter how you spin it, and he turned down the highest guaranteed purse in boxing history. (because he didn't want to fight away from home)

AJ is garuanteed at least 50 mil for with a fight with Wilder of the fights worth over 100 mil and the difference can be made up in a fight it's not a bigger deal as you guys made out with hidden BT deal so AJ would have probably had to forfeit a decent amount to SKY and let's face it he'll probably be getting better than a 50/50 split. Also don't forget the deal was thrown by Finkel as well cancelling meeting and refusing to meet, so they're both to blame unless you're absolutely bias.

[CJFRENCH]

Offers why do you keep going on about offers

About what I figured. (you couldn't prove your claim) None of the guys you mentioned made an offer. Carry on.

I did not make any claims, it was about reputations ducking and cowardice and how you cannot call AJ one without calling Wilder one. I am only saying neither is actually a coward or ducking, it is about money and the right fight at the right time, simply business.

No one made any offers to Wilder, so what, why was he not chasing them setting up a unification, that is the whole point. He should have been fighting them, but o no they did not make him an offer. So the great kings fight kings Wilder let AJ do all the unification work because they did not make him an offer to fight him. It should have been Wilder with all his skills knockout power and fight experience. Not some new boy. Now he wants to fight because the money is worth the risk. This is why Wilder has 40 fights in and is only just starting to step up and take risks, this is what they have been waiting for. So if AJ delays the fight he is only doing what Wilder did and making sure he is ready, not ducking not a coward just making sure things are right for him....maybe in another 18 fights AJ will be ready...LOL

[JWHardin]

AJ is garuanteed at least 50 mil for with a fight with Wilder of the fights worth over 100 mil and the difference can be made up in a fight it's not a bigger deal as you guys made out with hidden BT deal so AJ would have probably had to forfeit a decent amount to SKY and let's face it he'll probably be getting better than a 50/50 split. Also don't forget the deal was thrown by Finkel as well cancelling meeting and refusing to meet, so they're both to blame unless you're absolutely bias.

They cancelled the meeting because AJ's team wouldn't agree to the offer in principle. Why go any further? Hearn pulls a rookie move by sending a contract with no date or venue, and publicly chastises Wilder for not signing the first draft of a contract? No one does that.
Wilder agreed to a lesser amount as long as the fight was next, but Hearn wouldn't agree to that. Wilder moved on. You should to, until AJ grows a pair and takes control of his own career. Hearn works for him not the other way around.

By the way, the $50 million offer that AJ fans say big deal about? It is a big deal because it was the highest guaranteed offer ever in the history of boxing.

[Robbie Barrett]

They cancelled the meeting because AJ's team wouldn't agree to the offer in principle. Why go any further? Hearn pulls a rookie move by sending a contract with no date or venue, and publicly chastises Wilder for not signing the first draft of a contract? No one does that.
Wilder agreed to a lesser amount as long as the fight was next, but Hearn wouldn't agree to that. Wilder moved on. You should to, until AJ grows a pair and takes control of his own career. Hearn works for him not the other way around.

By the way, the $50 million offer that AJ fans say big deal about? It is a big deal because it was the highest guaranteed offer ever in the history of boxing.

The fight will be made when Haymon feels the time is right, his vice president said so. All this Joshua is ducking is bs.

[JWHardin]

The fight will be made when Haymon feels the time is right, his vice president said so. All this Joshua is ducking is bs.

Haymon is the one ultimately behind the $50 million offer.

You should have said the fight will be made when HEARN feels the time is right, because AJ apparently is just a puppet.