Comments Thread For: Hearn: We Want Wilder, We're Consistently Making The Effort

[REDEEMER]

You think the Wilderettes read articles on here? Your in for a real shocker . lol

Yes it appears that way.

[methodcal]

The article didn't say anything about signing a fight. Did anyone on here actually read it?

Especially after all the lies and spinning. We know you're a Matchroom speaker box trying to be objective.

[REDEEMER]

Especially after all the lies and spinning. We know you're a Matchroom speaker box trying to be objective.

Sounds like your just one of those who doesn't want to see the fight I was referring to earler.

[JWHardin]

and Wilder ducked Klitschko, Martin, Breazeale, Whyte, Martin, Parker all he has got so far is Ortiz, and because AJ and Whyte have not fought him they are ducking. Hence by your logic Wilder who has been boxing for so much longer and for so many more fights has ducked more as per above list for example. Normally the Wilder fans at this point state that is because they were all to scared to fight Wilder and everyone avoids him. Yet AJ was able to buy his titles that is why he is unified after so few fights and Wilder did not get a chance for Kings to fight Kings. Though his management have got $50 million dollars to spend so why did they leave it for AJ to face the real American unbeaten bloods Breazeale and Martin. Your question re Ortiz is pointless, its like saying name me ten other top ten HW's Wilder has fought, actually better make that top 50 LOL...

You are full of ****t dude. None of those you mentioned ever made an offer to Wilder. Prove otherwise and I will apologize.

Hearn/Joshua turned down a guaranteed $80 million over two fights, even if Joshua lost the first. That doesn't include PPV shares either. The BS rumor about network problems could have been worked out with that much on the table. They didn't want the fight then and I am not convinced they do yet.

Joshua will probably fight Whyte since he is keeping him away from Ortiz. Then probably Miller in the fall.

[Redgloveman]

Yeah, I remember him saying that but only after he was being constantly goaded and pressured by the sky sports interviewer, that he reluctantly mentioned Wilder's name. Before then he was very hesitant and evasive. As if he didn't want to answer the question yes or no; On whether he wanted to fight Wilder next? Boxing fans were anticipating that Deontay Wilder would be the first name to come out of his mouth after the fight but it wasn't. He said he was going to create a poll and allow his fans to select his next opponent. That was a weak move on AJ's part. Either you want to fight the man next or not? You don't need fan participation in order to select your next opponent now do you?

Again, I don't really like getting involved in these discussions unless there's a good reason to. And I've been critical of both sides. I appreciate that you're not going to change your mind and I'm not trying to change your mind, but Joshua had said very close to the time of that interview that he was tired of Fury and particularly Wilder using Joshua's profile to build their own profile and that he was bored of the talking and just wanted to get the fight made. When you consider that, it's understandable that he didn't really want to further enhance Wilder's name by being too effusive about wanting to fight him. After the Parker fight Joshua was very clear that he wanted the Wilder fight next, but it didn't end up happening, so I think Joshua's actions aren't those of someone who is ducking the fight. Hearn's actions is another matter entirely, but I'm not going to talk about that.

To be fair, I personally tend to believe Joshua. He's always been someone who doesn't like talk and respects actions rather than words. He got annoyed with Breazeale and with Kevin Johnson in the build up to their fights for the same reasons, so it's not particularly out of character for him - see below for a moment which I think sums up Joshua's character/persona quite a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeW3pV1xsc

[champion4ever]

A counter offer doesn't include 24 hours with no details combined with refusal of meetings one sets up ,lol...what a clown you are. lol

Povetkin fight was made after Finkel declined to sign the agreed terms he AGREED to..once again your a clown..lol

That's not true and you know it. Finkel exercised his Due diligence and discovered that there was no date, opponent or venue on the contract so he refused to sign it.

So when he sent it back to Eddie to fill in all the logistics of the contract. Eddie Hearn went into a full panic attack mode. He realized his bluff was called and that Team Wilder was actually willing to accept all of their terms and conditions of the fight.

So Eddie notified the WBA's President Mendoza about Joshua's mandatory status with Povetkin and that was when Mendoza issued a 24 hour deadline to finalize a mandatory deal between Joshua and Povetkin; Which effectively ended all negotiations. .

[champion4ever]

Again, I don't really like getting involved in these discussions unless there's a good reason to. And I've been critical of both sides. I appreciate that you're not going to change your mind and I'm not trying to change your mind, but Joshua had said very close to the time of that interview that he was tired of Fury and particularly Wilder using Joshua's profile to build their own profile and that he was bored of the talking and just wanted to get the fight made. When you consider that, it's understandable that he didn't really want to further enhance Wilder's name by being too effusive about wanting to fight him. After the Parker fight Joshua was very clear that he wanted the Wilder fight next, but it didn't end up happening, so I think Joshua's actions aren't those of someone who is ducking the fight. Hearn's actions is another matter entirely, but I'm not going to talk about that.

To be fair, I personally tend to believe Joshua. He's always been someone who doesn't like talk and respects actions rather than words. He got annoyed with Breazeale and with Kevin Johnson in the build up to their fights for the same reasons, so it's not particularly out of character for him - see below for a moment which I think sums up Joshua's character/persona quite a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeW3pV1xsc

I respect your position my friend. Even though I may not necessarily agree with it but I have no doubts that you are sincere in both your convictions and beliefs.

My only wish is that Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder could get on the phone and call each other and say to one another it's done. Yo, let's do this for the fans. I have no doubt that fight would get done in a little less than an hour.

The trouble is all of these ancillaries negotiating this fight through media by constantly running to press. All I need to hear from Eddie Hearn is for him to say the fight is done and we have a deal.

That's all the boxing public need to know from him. We don't need all this spin and face saving tactics by him attempting manipulating the fans and public through the media.

[Jax teller]

That's not true and you know it. Finkel exercised his Due diligence and discovered that there was no date, opponent or venue on the contract so he refused to sign it.

So when he sent it back to Eddie to fill in all the logistics of the contract. Eddie Hearn went into a full panic attack mode. He realized his bluff was called and that Team Wilder was actually willing to accept all of their terms and conditions of the fight.

So Eddie notified the WBA's President Mendoza about Joshua's mandatory status with Povetkin and that was when Mendoza issued a 24 hour deadline to finalize a mandatory deal between Joshua and Povetkin; Which effectively ended all negotiations. .

Wilder himself said in an interview the other day from the Fury promotions that they accepted it, Finkel said they didn't but Finkel also said he'd known the venue and date all along and Frank and Wilder both said they didn't but I guess that's Hearn making Finkel lie right? Because Finkel always tells the truth.

[Jax teller]

You are full of ****t dude. None of those you mentioned ever made an offer to Wilder. Prove otherwise and I will apologize.

Hearn/Joshua turned down a guaranteed $80 million over two fights, even if Joshua lost the first. That doesn't include PPV shares either. The BS rumor about network problems could have been worked out with that much on the table. They didn't want the fight then and I am not convinced they do yet.

Joshua will probably fight Whyte since he is keeping him away from Ortiz. Then probably Miller in the fall.

80 million but Finkel said there's no rematch, who's lying?

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/23317719/deontay-wilder-offers-anthony-joshua-50-million-heavyweight-unification-bout


I'll wait to not here from you.

[JWHardin]

80 million but Finkel said there's no rematch, who's lying?

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...ification-bout


I'll wait to not here from you.

I read the article, and Finkle said no rematch clause either way, and the fight had to be next. Not sure why you think someone is lying. He said it pretty plainly.

The rematch offer must have come in later, to sweeten the deal so Joshua would take it like he promised.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...nk-Warren.html