Comments Thread For: Conte Supports Decision To Deny License To Billy Joe Saunders

[Citizen Koba]

I Don't understand how there can be any ambiguity over this. Saunders signed up for vada,he failed a vada test, therefore he cheated and is banned. There's no murky ground here, he's a cheat.

He signed up for the testing for this fight under strict liability and failed the test therefore he should not be allowed to fight on this occasion. Whether or not he cheated (ie intentionally used the drug in question) is a different matter, as is whether or not he should be banned. The position of the WBO appears to be that they can strip fighters for failing to comply with local regulations.

http://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/

If a World Champion fails to comply with his contractual obligation to fight in a WBO World Championship bout without justifiable cause, or is determined by a Host Commission, a licensing commission, or otherwise has tested positive for an illegal or any performance enhancing drug, or fails to inform the WBO of any medical condition, impairment or any other circumstance which jeopardizes his participation in a WBO World Championship contest, or if a Champion or any of his team members misleads, attempts to mislead, or petitions a Local Boxing Commission to illegally or incorrectly license said Champion, the Committee may recommend to the WBO President and to the Executive Committee that the fighter be stripped of the title and that the title be declared vacant.

Also this helps to explain their position:

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbo-exec-explains-their-position-on-ped-testing--106450

It generally seems as if they're not in the business of banning boxers, but more in helping uphold the rules of local governing bodies, which again raises the issue of the difference between VADA testing (the WBC, WBA and individual fight contracts by agreement) and WADA (everyone else).

[kidbazooka]

You and Conte would have a point .. if oxilofrine was listed as an ingredient of the nasal spray BJS used. Going by the VADA statement, it wasn't listed as an ingredient:

"oxilofrine may have resulted from the administration of ephedrine which was also detected but below the decision limit of 11ug/ml. The estimated concentration of ephedrine is 4.6 ug/ml."

If oxilofrine wasan't listed as an ingredient, then both you and Conte are talking rubbish. BJS is a boxer, not a chemist. How was he supposed to know that taking a legal dose of ephedrine could make someone test positive for oxilofrine?

I love how you bought bjs nasal spray excuse but did you buy canelo contaminated meat excuse?

[bigdunny1]

So according to your comment, BJS is not even guilty of negligence let alone guilty of cheating?

I rest my case.

Just read the quote I gave of this emotional phuk boy days after Canelo failed test was public. There are literally a million more from this phony. Now the excuses for Saunders and the lets not rush to judge and the well he hasn't technically been stripped yet or suspended double talk yet when it was canelo he didn't need to wait for any of that to brand Canelo a cheater. And the man he is defending did the exact same thing and literally said there is no excuse for a failed test we as athletes know everything we put in our body these are just lies because you got caught. Then went a step further and said anyone who fails a drug test should be banned for life. The hypocrisy is hilarious. But let this phuk boy just keep digging his own grave and exposing himself. LMAO

[kafkod]

Victor Conte is a *****ing Rat who belongs in federal prison

Victor knows what he's talking about doe. He earns his living helping boxers to be PED cheats without getting caught.

[whoseyourdaddy]

You must have been a crappy counselor if you can't understand the difference between charged, found guilty, punished.

And not charged, because no chargeable offence has been committed.

According to the corrupt rules of UK but here in the States is a different scenario, hence he is not fighting Boo Boo Andrade and is about to loose his title.


So if there is no punishable merits why is he in this ordeal?

[bigdunny1]

I'm noticing you're not spotting the hypocrisy in your own behaviour, man. I do seem to recall you proclaiming Canelo's innocence to every man and his dog a few months ago when in fact the evidence was inconclusive either way. You forgotten about that? I shouldn't be so quick to throw around accusations of hypocrisy, man, cos that **** can bite you on the ass.

I'm not even accusing Saunders of being a cheater I literally am laughing at the 2 faced phuk getting a major does of karma and his fans who condemned canelo now pulling a 180. I said wait before you judge Canelo I said look at the evidence and idiots ignored all that for a drug that is nowhere as powerful as the shyt saunders took after he stood on his high horse and said no excuses we know exactly what we put in our body if you fail a drug test you need to be banned for life. I'm not deciding 1 way or another on saunders I am saying let's treat Saunders the way he treated everybody else LMAO

I'll be as clear as I possibly can I'm stating that by Saunders own standards he is a drug cheat. And by the standards of those who trashed Canelo Saunders is a drug cheat. If you are Saunders or any fan who killed Canelo and now switching up your story and standards you are a phuking hypocrite LMAO

[whoseyourdaddy]

I'm noticing you're not spotting the hypocrisy in your own behaviour, man. I do seem to recall you proclaiming Canelo's innocence to every man and his dog a few months ago when in fact the evidence was inconclusive either way. You forgotten about that? I shouldn't be so quick to throw around accusations of hypocrisy, man, cos that **** can bite you on the ass.

Just like hypocrisy is biting Kafkod in the ass? agreed

What he is doing is reversing the Shït this deluded Kafkod did against Canelo. nothing more, nothing less.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

We get it, BJS is guilty. On another note, I'm sick of this Conte rat. He got caught years ago, now he's speaking up like it's gonna wipe away his old doings.

[kafkod]

So according to your comment, BJS is not even guilty of negligence let alone guilty of cheating?

I rest my case.

Did you never come across the term, "presumed innocent until proven guilty" while you were working as a counselor?

[Jy4634]

Kafkod,...
Lets keep it simple and mature,.. he's a Professional Boxer & not a child, he should know whats going in his body point blank. Especially when it can cause him his career,...!?! He had the list and if he didnt know he should have asked them before he made the decision to take it, he a professor athlete & held to a higher standard to know this stuff,..