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  • Mrbamladen
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    #171
    I got a question for the whyte/ UK fans/Ortiz haters, etc. What exactly is the complaint about the Ortiz vs Allen fight??? All B.S. aside...... I'm genuinely curious.

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    • Jkp
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      #172
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Hearn didn't need to sign Ortiz and give him a fight against an easy opponent on AJ's undercard.

      He didn't need to introduce Ortiz to the UK fans, who had mostly never even heard of him, and tell them ... "This is Luis Ortiz. He is the mandatory challenger for AJ's WBA title"

      Maybe you can tell me .. if Hearn wanted to avoid Ortiz, why on earth would he have done that?
      The fight card you are referring to AJ and Ortiz fought horrible tomato cans in 2 of the worst mismatches ever witnessed in the ring.

      That night Both AJ and Ortiz were prepared to fight, both had there gloves on, both were at the same venue, both had no one decent to fight, but Hearn still wouldnt put AJ in the ring with Ortiz. Tells you all you need to know right there.

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      • Dontbeahater
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        #173
        So many excuses from Whyte fanboys who were just saying YESTERDAY that Ortiz was ducking Whyte! Jesus they are in shock today.

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        • kafkod
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          #174
          Originally posted by Jkp
          The promoter makes the fights happen. If Eddie promotes both fighters then he has full control to prevent them from fighting, or make them fight.

          Eddie's plan was for Ortiz to be AJ's protector and use him as an obstacle to getting a fight with AJ. Just like they are doing with ***** Whyte.
          That's crazy!

          No promoter can make a boxer take a fight he doesn't want to take, and he definitely can't stop a mandatory challenger from fighting for a world title when a mando is ordered, especially not if he is working with that boxer on a fight by fight basis, with no long term contract involved.

          When the WBA ordered their mando, Hearn would have had 2 choices.. either make Ortiz a good offer to keep him with Matchroom or allow the fight to go to a purse bid and pay him his mandated cut.

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            #175
            Originally posted by Mrbamladen
            I got a question for the whyte/ UK fans/Ortiz haters, etc. What exactly is the complaint about the Ortiz vs Allen fight??? All B.S. aside...... I'm genuinely curious.
            the typical argument i've seen on here is that if Ortiz was great, he would have beat Allen quicker.

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            • Jkp
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              #176
              Originally posted by kafkod
              That's crazy!

              No promoter can make a boxer take a fight he doesn't want to take, and he definitely can't stop a mandatory challenger from fighting for a world title when a mando is ordered, especially not if he is working with that boxer on a fight by fight basis, with no long term contract involved.

              When the WBA ordered their mando, Hearn would have had 2 choices.. either make Ortiz a good offer to keep him with Matchroom or allow the fight to go to a purse bid and pay him his mandated cut.
              AJ definitely didn't want the fight either. He still dont.

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              • Jkp
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                #177
                Originally posted by Dontbeahater
                So many excuses from Whyte fanboys who were just saying YESTERDAY that Ortiz was ducking Whyte! Jesus they are in shock today.
                No body has every ducked whyte, he is one of the easiest to hit in the heavy weight division and doesnt have a big punch.

                Typical hysterical UK hype around him since his ground breaking defeat of lucas browne. Im sure all the top guys would love to beat him up.

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                • kafkod
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Jkp
                  The fight card you are referring to AJ and Ortiz fought horrible tomato cans in 2 of the worst mismatches ever witnessed in the ring.

                  That night Both AJ and Ortiz were prepared to fight, both had there gloves on, both were at the same venue, both had no one decent to fight, but Hearn still wouldnt put AJ in the ring with Ortiz. Tells you all you need to know right there.
                  First .. the "horrible tomato can" AJ fought had just gone 9 rounds with Wilder and had Deontay doing the chicken dance at one point before he finally managed to get rid of him!

                  Second .. Ortiz was absolutely unkown to the UK casuals who are AJ's fan base. Molina had a higher profile than Ortiz in the UK because of his fight with Wilder.

                  What Hearn did with Ortiz was exactly the same thing he did with Povetkin after he took over as WBA mando .. put him on AJ's undercard against a well known UK opponent to build up interest in in fight between him and AJ.

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                  • Jkp
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Hahahahaha

                    This guy is the ultimate Wilder fan girl 😂😂😂😂😂
                    I dont even like wilder very much. Hes ok.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Mrbamladen
                      I got a question for the whyte/ UK fans/Ortiz haters, etc. What exactly is the complaint about the Ortiz vs Allen fight??? All B.S. aside...... I'm genuinely curious.
                      I have no idea. Especially since Whyte went the distance with the guy. He may have been more prepared for Whyte, but all the same I can't see Wilder or Joshua letting a guy like Allen survive the distance.

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