Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Accepts Dillian Whyte's Offer To Fight on 12/22 in UK

[landotter]

IF this happens, and that is still a fairly HUGE if, there will be no one happier than me. Ortiz needs bigger fights. No doubt. He has a very thin resume and a reputation. He is in need of proving himself, and while I will pick him I understand he has yet to prove it against a fighter of Whyte's caliber.

I swear, 24 months ago I thought Whyte was an overrated trash talker barely worth commenting on. This guy fights. I understand the HW division right now is only a few fighters deep, but Whyte has done what so many other fighters refuse to do: Take on whoever is out there to build his rep. If he decides to risk his payday with Joshua by throwing down with Ortiz over Chisora, I will be a fan of his for life no matter if he wins or loses. Throw in that he is a fun interview.

Boy, I will be bummed when in a few weeks it ends up being Chisora and Ortiz settles for a club level fighter on the Wilder pay-per-view.

[_Rexy_]

I haven't seen anybody saying that.

Ortiz just didn't excite anybody with his plodding, methodical, counter punching style and his dour personality.

There was nothing about him that made the UK fans think, "hey .. this guy against AJ would be a great fight!

Yeah, counter punchers are rarely entertaining, especially in the higher weight classes where he could just be studying you for a round and then KO you out of nowhere (his last fight) at least lower weight class counter punchers will have exchanges

[eco1]

well, if the fight happens, bye bye Whyte....

[kafkod]

AJ definitely didn't want the fight either. He still dont.

Does any world champion ever want a mandatory challenger who has no fan base and brings no money to the table?

Not really wanting to fight him is one thing .. being scared of him is something else.

Be honest .. was there anything about Ortiz's performances against Malik Scott and Dave Allen that would have made Hearn and AJ scared of fighting him?

[kafkod]

the typical argument i've seen on here is that if Ortiz was great, he would have beat Allen quicker.

I haven't seen anybody saying that.

Ortiz just didn't excite anybody with his plodding, methodical, counter punching style and his dour personality.

There was nothing about him that made the UK fans think, "hey .. this guy against AJ would be a great fight!

[Biolink]

I got a question for the whyte/ UK fans/Ortiz haters, etc. What exactly is the complaint about the Ortiz vs Allen fight??? All B.S. aside...... I'm genuinely curious.

I have no idea. Especially since Whyte went the distance with the guy. He may have been more prepared for Whyte, but all the same I can't see Wilder or Joshua letting a guy like Allen survive the distance.

[Jkp]

Hahahahaha

This guy is the ultimate Wilder fan girl 😂😂😂😂😂

I dont even like wilder very much. Hes ok.

[kafkod]

The fight card you are referring to AJ and Ortiz fought horrible tomato cans in 2 of the worst mismatches ever witnessed in the ring.

That night Both AJ and Ortiz were prepared to fight, both had there gloves on, both were at the same venue, both had no one decent to fight, but Hearn still wouldnt put AJ in the ring with Ortiz. Tells you all you need to know right there.

First .. the "horrible tomato can" AJ fought had just gone 9 rounds with Wilder and had Deontay doing the chicken dance at one point before he finally managed to get rid of him!

Second .. Ortiz was absolutely unkown to the UK casuals who are AJ's fan base. Molina had a higher profile than Ortiz in the UK because of his fight with Wilder.

What Hearn did with Ortiz was exactly the same thing he did with Povetkin after he took over as WBA mando .. put him on AJ's undercard against a well known UK opponent to build up interest in in fight between him and AJ.

[Jkp]

So many excuses from Whyte fanboys who were just saying YESTERDAY that Ortiz was ducking Whyte! Jesus they are in shock today.

No body has every ducked whyte, he is one of the easiest to hit in the heavy weight division and doesnt have a big punch.

Typical hysterical UK hype around him since his ground breaking defeat of lucas browne. Im sure all the top guys would love to beat him up.

[Jkp]

That's crazy!

No promoter can make a boxer take a fight he doesn't want to take, and he definitely can't stop a mandatory challenger from fighting for a world title when a mando is ordered, especially not if he is working with that boxer on a fight by fight basis, with no long term contract involved.

When the WBA ordered their mando, Hearn would have had 2 choices.. either make Ortiz a good offer to keep him with Matchroom or allow the fight to go to a purse bid and pay him his mandated cut.

AJ definitely didn't want the fight either. He still dont.