Comments Thread For: Hearn: I'd Love To Make Luis Ortiz vs. Dillian Whyte For Dec. 22

[Blond Beast]

I wish all the legit bean counting was available to fans. Nobody truly knows.

[Ake-Dawg]

Again those two headlining their own show is better for everyone involved apart from Wilder and his fanatics, this is the only angle anyone would argue against it. I don’t have a problem with Whyte fighting on anyone’s undercard.... I pointed out (Something that I thought would be obvious), why would he want to fight on Wilder undercard? He would get paid less, he would be showcased as the third fight for the night and he wouldn’t get the attention that fight deserves.

Now back to December 22nd, Ortiz and Whyte would be the main event, showcased and spotlight on them two. On PPV which meaning They stand a better chance of getting paid more. Now Team Ortiz has come out and said they are ready for that card, which means they agree with my original comments.

Only a dumb team would pass over that December 22nd opportunity for the December 1st one.

According to Ortiz manager, Whyte turned down the Dec 1st offer. As such the only way they fight is on Dec 22. No where does it say there was more money offered.

I started my post saying that you were assuming that the purse was higher for the 22Dec fight, which you assume in this post as well. That's fine and as I indicated, purse would be the larger factor to each fighter. I just choose not to assume to know whether the Dec 1 or Dec 22 fight would yield the higher purse as I know being on ppv doesn't guarantee a large purse.

This has nothing to do with Wilder to me. However, I think secondarily you sense that Whyte Ortiz on the Wilder Fury card strengthens the ppv and are against such a thing. I assume Hearn is too given that the better the Dec ppv does the greater the % split the winner gets vs Joshua. To me, you're fighting against an idea that I'm not stating or promoting.

[Eff Pandas]

Hearn comment on this yet since it appears both fighters are down???

Legit hopes he makes this fight, but I'm feeling a vibe that he won't cuz Wilder isn't happening in April. If Whyte loses then he's not getting the April Joshua fight. Who's fighting Joshua in April lol? Big Baby? I think Big Baby is a nice lil sleeper to beat Joshua so that seems like a bad matchup. Would Hearn wanna make Joshua vs Ortiz if Ortiz gets past Whyte?

Idk the answers to a bunch of those situations & I bet Hearn has some issues answering them for himself so its just a whole lot easier to let Whyte fight Del Boy & ideally have learned from the first fight to beat him this time & then throw him in with Joshua in April to lose.

[champion4ever]

It looks like we are going to have a Wilder/Ortiz rematch after all. Overall, Luis Ortiz is just the better, more fundamentally sound fighter with an extensive amateur pedigree and a superior defense than Whyte.

Moreover, Ortiz is a counter puncher. Therefore he is going to see Dillian's wide, slow and sloppy punches coming a mile away. In addition he is a south paw. So I got Ortiz winning this by an 8th round TKO.

[Ray*]

According to Ortiz manager, Whyte turned down the Dec 1st offer. As such the only way they fight is on Dec 22. No where does it say there was more money offered.

I started my post saying that you were assuming that the purse was higher for the 22Dec fight, which you assume in this post as well. That's fine and as I indicated, purse would be the larger factor to each fighter. I just choose not to assume to know whether the Dec 1 or Dec 22 fight would yield the higher purse as I know being on ppv doesn't guarantee a large purse.

This has nothing to do with Wilder to me. However, I think secondarily you sense that Whyte Ortiz on the Wilder Fury card strengthens the ppv and are against such a thing. I assume Hearn is too given that the better the Dec ppv does the greater the % split the winner gets vs Joshua. To me, you're fighting against an idea that I'm not stating or promoting.

I dont give a toss about Wilder/Fury's strength or PPV. You must be ******ed if you think i even care about that, Whyte/Ortiz gives strength to Wilder/Fury PPV? Is that what you guys care about?

Again! Whyte/Ortiz would never happen as an undercard fight, the only viable option is for that fight to be done on PPV as its only headliner, it great for both fighter and boxing. Financially better for both too.

Again NO fighter is going to go from headlining his own PPV to fighting on the undercard as the third fight....I couldn't care less if that fight help Wilder/Fury or not.

[Ray*]

Hearn comment on this yet since it appears both fighters are down???

Legit hopes he makes this fight, but I'm feeling a vibe that he won't cuz Wilder isn't happening in April. If Whyte loses then he's not getting the April Joshua fight. Who's fighting Joshua in April lol? Big Baby? I think Big Baby is a nice lil sleeper to beat Joshua so that seems like a bad matchup. Would Hearn wanna make Joshua vs Ortiz if Ortiz gets past Whyte?

Idk the answers to a bunch of those situations & I bet Hearn has some issues answering them for himself so its just a whole lot easier to let Whyte fight Del Boy & ideally have learned from the first fight to beat him this time & then throw him in with Joshua in April to lose.

The only way for Whyte to re-enforce his chances against Joshua is to beat Ortiz NOT duck the fight. Chisora had promise Whyte £5m for the December 22nd card, so am guessing him and his team are looking at that too.

Joshua/Wilder happening in April 2019? Am very skeptical about that, am guessing Fat baby is going to have a fight in December too and if he does better than Whyte he might get the Joshua fight, especially now that he has stepped up his trashtalking.

[Marchegiano]

Bunch of *******s who have never been on television, never been around any set at all, never signed a contract, does not really know what IPs are, or how distribution works, but sure is gonna tell me all about how to build a brand.

Truth is all any of y'all do is twist whatever tidbit of information you can into something that you can say hurray for my side about. Ain't no knowledge to you, ain't no truth to you, and ain't no reason for no man to listen to your counterfeit asses.

[Ake-Dawg]

I dont give a toss about Wilder/Fury's strength or PPV. You must be ******ed if you think i even care about that, Whyte/Ortiz gives strength to Wilder/Fury PPV? Is that what you guys care about?

Again! Whyte/Ortiz would never happen as an undercard fight, the only viable option is for that fight to be done on PPV as its only headliner, it great for both fighter and boxing. Financially better for both too.

Again NO fighter is going to go from headlining his own PPV to fighting on the undercard as the third fight....I couldn't care less if that fight help Wilder/Fury or not.

Out of curiousity, why is it guaranteed to be the third fight in your opinion?

FYI, multiple fighters have fought as the main event on one card and subsequently fought on the undercard of a bigger fight. Leo Santa Cruz is about to do it. I also think that we have to be careful when comparing Sky Sports ppv events to the ppv events such as the ones GGG, Ward-Kovalev, Canelo, etc have had. Its not so much that those events were held in the US, but moreso that they are world-wide ppv events that tend to bring in much more revenue.

[uppercut510]

bunch of *******s who have never been on television, never been around any set at all, never signed a contract, does not really know what ips are, or how distribution works, but sure is gonna tell me all about how to build a brand.

truth is all any of y'all do is twist whatever tidbit of information you can into something that you can say hurray for my side about. ain't no knowledge to you, ain't no truth to you, and ain't no reason for no man to listen to your counterfeit asses.

so much truth spoken here!!!!!!!!!!

[uppercut510]

So is the fight going to be signed now? or is eddie trying to take Ortiz off the wilder fury undercard.... promise him a whyte fight and then figure out some way to say the fight couldn't be signed and leave Ortiz out hanging to dry as hes done b4? remember this guy whyte just lied to the world and said Ortiz priced himself out of the fight the WBC ordered which was a complete lie. So who knows what the hell these guys are really up to. but Ortiz accepted so whats next?