GGG talks the talk while Canelo walks the walk. "154-168 EZFOMI"- CANELO

[bigdunny1]

No I wouldn't call Lemieux a bum. I don't think he's a bum at all. He's not the world's best boxer but he has power and good hand speed. I don't think Fielding is a bum either. IMO Lemieux has a better chance than Fielding in the unlikely event of an upset. As I said before Fielding may last longer because of his size but Lemieux has a punchers chance. One thing Fielding could do is impose his size on Canelo. Get inside and clinch make Canelo work and wear him down. He's not going to outbox Canelo. Of course your going to disagree.

Well I agree with you there I don't think either guy is a flat out bum. They are both equally ranked in their respected weight classes in the lower half of top 10 rankings. I disagree with you that Lemieux has a better chance of winning then Fielding but that is splitting hairs the fact is Canelo is elite both are not so both will be a huge underdog. GGG was supposed to the killer and the hardest puncher in history at 160 and never came close to landing a miracle knockout punch so a 10X slower less skilled Lemieux with a horrible tank (he gasses out after 4 rounds) is not going to do it. I have at least seen many instances in boxing history of a better more skilled fighter moving up and getting beat by a less skilled but physically bigger man. Going in we say he should win he's just better and after the fight we say in retrospect the weight and height advantages he gave up were just too much to overcome. I at least see intrigue in Rocky because Canelo who is very short is giving up huge height and weight to Fielding who is over 6'1.

[TonyGe]

Well I agree with you there I don't think either guy is a flat out bum. They are both equally ranked in their respected weight classes in the lower half of top 10 rankings. I disagree with you that Lemieux has a better chance of winning then Fielding but that is splitting hairs the fact is Canelo is elite both are not so both will be a huge underdog. GGG was supposed to the killer and the hardest puncher in history at 160 and never came close to landing a miracle knockout punch so a 10X slower less skilled Lemieux with a horrible tank (he gasses out after 4 rounds) is not going to do it. I have at least seen many instances in boxing history of a better more skilled fighter moving up and getting beat by a less skilled but physically bigger man. Going in we say he should win he's just better and after the fight we say in retrospect the weight and height advantages he gave up were just too much to overcome. I at least see intrigue in Rocky because Canelo who is very short is giving up huge height and weight to Fielding who is over 6'1.

I'm thinking Lemieux could catch him with a big punch and hurt Canelo. I believe he hits harder than Golovkin. His stamina has improved since his early fights and he took some nasty shots from Golovkin before it was stopped. Don't think Fielding can stagger Canelo with a single punch. But as you point out his size is a big advantage if he uses it. One way is as I said would be to engage Canelo in a wrestling match and force him to work. He could wear him out. Honestly I don't know enough about Fielding to make an proper opinion.

Just to add. Golovkin is a very hard puncher but not the hardest. That's an Able Sanchez spin. Really I have some big problems with Able. He talks too much. He actually told Golovkin that he would be better than Ali. Really Able. Talk about generating unrealistic expectations in fans minds.

[bigdunny1]

I'm thinking Lemieux could catch him with a big punch and hurt Canelo. I believe he hits harder than Golovkin. His stamina has improved since his early fights and he took some nasty shots from Golovkin before it was stopped. Don't think Fielding can hurt him with s single punch. But as you point out his size is a big advantage if he uses it. One way is as I said would be to engage Canelo in a wrestling match and force him to work. He could wear him out. Honestly I don't know enough about Fielding to make an proper opinion.

If monster puncher GGG couldn't land a lucky 1 in a million punch lemieux ain't. Everyone thought Oscar would destroy Sturm who is nothing special does nothing from a skill point better then Oscar and was not highly regarded. But all the weight classes and Oscar body tapped out at 160 and he struggled with a guy who is not in his league talent and skillwise. Sturm not long after lost to Javier Castillejo the same guy who Oscar destroyed as a stay busy opponent half a decade earlier. lol

If canelo loses to Fielding it won't be from a single punch it will be a long fight where the size and height difference is too much to overcome. We already know neither guy lemieux or fielding
is a better caliber fighter then Canelo but fielding might be Sturm a guy who is just too big for canelo. That's all I'm saying history is littered with guys who moved up and lost because the weights/size too much to overcome. How many guys as elite and good defensively as canelo get hit with 1 lucky shot by a guy as slow and limited as Lemieux? It doesn't happen much.

[Eff Pandas]

Ignoring the most obvious answer which is canelo like other greats had ALREADY beaten the best at the lower weights where he was champion

So then why did SRL get sh^t on for the Lalonde fight?

You can't reinvent history you f#ckhead.

Here's some segments of an article from 1988.

Although Sugar Ray Leonard-Donny Lalonde shapes up as a mismatch in the ring Monday night

In this peculiar meeting of the heavily favored Leonard and the little-known Lalonde

Although Lalonde clearly lacks marquee value

the restless Leonard coming once more out of retirement to meet an opponent of modest reputation, a Canadian light heavyweight/super middleweight who has beaten a collection of unknowns sprinkled with a few over-the-hill veterans.

even if Leonard-Lalonde is far from an attraction

Leonard and Lalonde can make their financial killings even with empty seats in closed-circuit arenas and at the fight itself

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/11/03/leonard-lalonde-in-clover/d56477a7-6870-4d11-8885-4550703efade/?utm_term=.0b80a0d3b73a

I mean if this article isn't sh^tting on this fight I don't know what sh^tting on a fight is. The only good things being mentioned about this fight are money related for both guys.

when he finally stepped up to face top fighters and lost badly.

Thats the thing you f#cking dummy. This was back when Broner was highly thought of & P4P discussed. Sh^t man I think Broner was like P4P #5 or some sh^t at one point. This happened right before the Maidana fight when he did this Canelo move. It wasn't after he lost. You can only judge reality as it plays out. You can't make reality fit around things you found out later, but didn't know for sure at the time. And even if you thought Broner was sh^t, the boxing world as a whole & overall considered him a P4P guy. You can't change that fact cuz he started phoning it in more & turned into dogsh^t in the future. If Canelo beats Fielding & then proceeds to get beaten in his next 3 168lb fights it don't change the fact Canelo is highly thought of now.

Stop playing ****** nobody killed him for moving up to fight Lalonde. The only heat he took WAS AFTER he beat Lalonde.

Thats complete & utter bs. I just posted an article link & copy/pasted lines out of it that are sh^tting all over an "atg" fighter for this bs fight. If they had more old newspapers articles online that were free to look at I'm sure I could find a sh^tton of them cuz the consensus opinion was it was a bs fight.

And that was because folks felt he was allowed to keep the new belt hostage. He moved back down in weight and continued fighting smaller fighters while holding this belt. Similar to the heat Floyd took AFTER winning the 154 belt at 152 then moving back down to fighting welterweights for 2 years while still being allowed to hold and defend the 154 belt at 147 against welterweight fighters. The precedent fans and the belt orgs used to explain that nonsense and him not getting stripped was Sugar Ray Leonard. But it's again another way you are going full re tard by pretending when after Leonard beat Hagler and announced he was going up to fight Lalonde pretending it was treated the same when Broner announced he was going up to fight Paulie after cementing his greatness by beating Gavin Rees. lol Yeah no difference at all can't understand why Broner was being criticized LMAO

Here's all that extra sh^t again with you searching so hard for a reason lmfao. If you weren't so hilariously ****** I'd have you on my ignore list.

The reality is all 3 guys did the same sh^t, but for some reason a lot of fans are patting Canelo on the back. That sh^t seems f#cked up to me.

Broner lol for fighting Paulie
SRL lol for fighting Lalonde
Canelo is a bad mfer for fighting Rocky Fielding

Gtfo here with that fooking bs.

[TonyGe]

If monster puncher GGG couldn't land a lucky 1 in a million punch lemieux ain't. Everyone thought Oscar would destroy Sturm who is nothing special does nothing from a skill point better then Oscar and was not highly regarded. But all the weight classes and Oscar body tapped out at 160 and he struggled with a guy who is not in his league talent and skillwise. Sturm not long after lost to Javier Castillejo the same guy who Oscar destroyed as a stay busy opponent half a decade earlier. lol

If canelo loses to Fielding it won't be from a single punch it will be a long fight where the size and height difference is too much to overcome. We already know neither guy lemieux or fielding
is a better caliber fighter then Canelo but fielding might be Sturm a guy who is just too big for canelo. That's all I'm saying history is littered with guys who moved up and lost because the weights/size too much to overcome. How many guys as elite and good defensively as canelo get hit with 1 lucky shot by a guy as slow and limited as Lemieux? It doesn't happen much.

I saw Golovkin land numerous hard shots on Canelo so it's not impossible for him to land a few big shots. I guess we will see how it goes.

[bigdunny1]

So then why did SRL get sh^t on for the Lalonde fight?

You can't reinvent history you f#ckhead.

Here's some segments of an article from 1988.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/11/03/leonard-lalonde-in-clover/d56477a7-6870-4d11-8885-4550703efade/?utm_term=.0b80a0d3b73a

I mean if this article isn't sh^tting on this fight I don't know what sh^tting on a fight is. The only good things being mentioned about this fight are money related for both guys.



Thats the thing you f#cking dummy. This was back when Broner was highly thought of & P4P discussed. Sh^t man I think Broner was like P4P #5 or some sh^t at one point. This happened right before the Maidana fight when he did this Canelo move. It wasn't after he lost. You can only judge reality as it plays out. You can't make reality fit around things you found out later, but didn't know for sure at the time. And even if you thought Broner was sh^t, the boxing world as a whole & overall considered him a P4P guy. You can't change that fact cuz he started phoning it in more & turned into dogsh^t in the future. If Canelo beats Fielding & then proceeds to get beaten in his next 3 168lb fights it don't change the fact Canelo is highly thought of now.



Thats complete & utter bs. I just posted an article link & copy/pasted lines out of it that are sh^tting all over an "atg" fighter for this bs fight. If they had more old newspapers articles online that were free to look at I'm sure I could find a sh^tton of them cuz the consensus opinion was it was a bs fight.



Here's all that extra sh^t again with you searching so hard for a reason lmfao. If you weren't so hilariously ****** I'd have you on my ignore list.

The reality is all 3 guys did the same sh^t, but for some reason a lot of fans are patting Canelo on the back. That sh^t seems f#cked up to me.

Broner lol for fighting Paulie
SRL lol for fighting Lalonde
Canelo is a bad mfer for fighting Rocky Fielding

Gtfo here with that fooking bs.

Now I know you have gone full re tard so now finding one obscure article that isn't even really ripping Leonard means what? This is boxing you tell me who your favorite boxer is and I can find some article criticizing every fight doesn't mean anything. My point isn't that NOBODY on the planet earth said a single negative thing about Sugar Ray jumping up to fight a lesser world champ. This is boxing everyone bytches about something or another. Just like I'm not acting like literally nobody will say a negative thing about canelo or Roy Jones who if you search of course you can find someone who complained that he was fighting Ruiz and not Lennox Lewis the true heavyweight champ. You also lied saying everyone is doing a touchdown dance for Canelo when that's not true either. Stop playing extremes. You said why isn't Canelo getting killed like Broner did and I already answer your bytch azzz why and you can't handle it. Broner got trashed up and down and looked like a fool because he never beat any of the top guys at the lower weight BEFORE moving up. You keep trying to sweep that under the rug like it doesn't matter like it isn't a factor. That's the answer yet still you trying to muddy the waters and making a phuking fool out yourself.

Sugar Ray, Roy Jones, Manny Pacquiao for the most part got a pass for doing this BECAUSE they were already proven greats who already beat great fighters at the lower weight BEFORE moving up to cherry pick a belt you idiot. stop making straw-man arguments and moving the bar. Broner doesn't belong in this argument you made a foolish comparison asking a question and ignore the most obvious difference in why Broner didn't get the benefit of the doubt by the public like Roy Jones did by fighting John Ruiz or Leonard fighting Lalonde and Canelo fighting Fielding.

Now if you trying to say that fans treated Leonard the same way they treated Broner moving to fight Paulie then you just have lost all sense of reality and are just making up shyt to argue. Broner was also NEVER treated like or seen like canelo, sugar ray, roy jones all top tier P4P fighters and hall of famers, Broner was at NO POINT in his career was even a unanimous top10 P4P fighter. Here is ESPN yearly P4P rankings AFTER his demarco fight the biggest win of his career and just 6 months before he fought Paulie.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...d-pound-boxers
ESPN P4P rankings

11. Abner Mares
12. Robert Guerrero
13. Mikkel Kessler
14. Austin Trout
15. Miguel Cotto
16. Chad Dawson
17. Bernard Hopkins
18. Danny Garcia
19. Adrien Broner
20. Yuriorkis Gamboa

Broner was a fringe P4P ranked fighter at best at his peak before losing to Maidana and outside of almost everyone's top 10 rankings and you phuking know this. Dude stop lying and stop moving goal posts and making straw-man arguments. Broner was NEVER seen like Canelo is today and didn't beat the boogyman at any weight before moving up to fight paulie and that's why he was trashed and guys like canelo, Sugar Ray, Roy Jones ect were given a pass for cherry picking a belt in another weight class. I can keep going exposing your h0e azzz as long as you want. lol Stop trying to rewrite history and move the argument.