GGG talks the talk while Canelo walks the walk. "154-168 EZFOMI"- CANELO

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #81
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    Again who did broner beat at any of those weight classes that is comparable to who canelo has beaten that's why it's just dumb. Canelo already has a hall of fame resume and beat the boogyman at 154 and 160. The reason broner got clowned then and now is he never fought and beat those top guys even before the took Ls he beat paper champs and won vacant belts. Name his great wins before he jumped to 147?... exactly. Canelo resume already has wins over GGG, Cotto, Trout, Lara, Mosley, ect and already lineal and unified champ. Broner never unified, never lineal, didn't beat the top guys at those weights, no hall of famers, no p4p ranked fighters come on dude this is just plain dumb comparison. What canelo is doing is what other greats who already had great careers did like Roy, Sugar Ray, Manny did not trash bag broner who will never be in canelo's company.

    Sugar Ray already established his greatness before he jumped to 168 just for a belt. Roy Jones already established his greatness before he jumped to heavyweight just for a belt, Manny Pacquiao already established his greatness before he jumped to 154 just for a belt. Canelo already established his greatness he is already a hall of famer right now jumping to 168 just for a belt. Broner doesn't belong in this sentence ****** comparison
    What are you even ranting on here brother? Who's talking about all this extra sh^t. Resume & sh^t lmfao. Who's talking all time great child bs. Who's talking RJJ or SRL or Manny for mf's sake lmfao.

    Are you nuts? Like for real? You are having some basic comprehension issues here I feel like.

    Holy f#cking sh^t man are you understanding the actual comparison I'm making here or are you going to start talking about some Bob Fitzsimmons sh^t or some other sh^t that ain't got nothing to do with nothing I'm talking about next?

    Follow along bro. What I'm saying is there was a situation when Broner was higher thought of where he jumped up 2 divisions to fight the worst title holder & got sh^t on. I'm saying Canelo is doing the same sh^t & he's not getting all that sh^t on. But yea I do agree with you Canelo is the better fighter hence one would think he'd get more sh^t then Broner got for doing the same thing Broner did.

    I understand you are trying to have one of those weirdo find a reason to disagree with me debates right now, but you are trying waaaaaay to f#cking hard to try to find a reason to disagree with me about a very obvious comparison with some bs I'm not talking about.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #82
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      What are you even ranting on here brother? Who's talking about all this extra sh^t. Resume & sh^t lmfao. Who's talking all time great child bs. Who's talking RJJ or SRL or Manny for mf's sake lmfao.

      Are you nuts? Like for real? You are having some basic comprehension issues here I feel like.

      Holy f#cking sh^t man are you understanding the actual comparison I'm making here or are you going to start talking about some Bob Fitzsimmons sh^t or some other sh^t that ain't got nothing to do with nothing I'm talking about next?

      Follow along bro. What I'm saying is there was a situation when Broner was higher thought of where he jumped up 2 divisions to fight the worst title holder & got sh^t on. I'm saying Canelo is doing the same sh^t & he's not getting all that sh^t on. But yea I do agree with you Canelo is the better fighter hence one would think he'd get more sh^t then Broner got for doing the same thing Broner did.

      I understand you are trying to have one of those weirdo find a reason to disagree with me debates right now, but you are trying waaaaaay to f#cking hard to try to find a reason to disagree with me about a very obvious comparison with some bs I'm not talking about.
      What don't you get broner cherry picked every belt and never established him self againat the best at any weight. Canelo the opposite he beat the beat the best and is now cherry picking a belt to add to his hall of fame legacy. This is what Roy who already was a established great did, Manny did, Leonard did when they cherry picked a belt at higher weight class that they had no intentions of defending. Broner is a punchline because he hoarded paper belts beat nobody ever and the moment he faced top guys not only lost but lost badly. Keep spinning trying to defend how canelo coming off breaking the boogyman face and being lineal middlweight champ of the world on a short turn around adding a scalp at 168 before he defends his lineal status at 160 in May is anything like what that fraud laughing stock Broner has ever done in his career? LMAO

      Of course you don't treat Roy Jones and Sugar Ray Leonard and Canelo the same way you treat Broner. Adding a extra weight belt is like the cherry on top of the sundae. Just a cool resume booster, resume footnote to hall of fame careers. Broner will never be in this company then or now because he did t clean out weight class beat boogymen and hall of famers along the way.
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-07-2018, 09:29 AM.

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        #83
        It's like a QB who has already won super bowls already destined for the hall of fame but the coach leaves him in the last game of the season to run the score up in a game he already won just to break a passing record. Cool stat to add to his legacy but doesnt define it. Not treated the same as a bum QB who never won jack on a losing team but stays in late in a nothing middle season game that they are losing just to try and break a passing record. That's Broner.
        Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-07-2018, 09:38 AM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          What don't you get broner cherry picked every belt and never established him self againat the best at any weight. Canelo the opposite he beat the beat the best and is now cherry picking a belt to add to his hall of fame legacy.
          Huh?!?!?! I didn't even wanna get into all this resume bs cuz I hate resume sh^t & my point has nothing to do with resume it has to do with moving up to fight for a belt, which is usually a bold move for anyone to do, but doing it against the worst belt holder in the division which is quite a lackluster move.

          But are you f#cking sh^tting me Canelo didn't cherry pick his way to the top? And respect to Canelo, he's the better fight between him & Broner I'm not saying that isn't the case at all as I've stated a couple times to your reaching for a silly argument ass already.

          Do you even watch boxing? Did someone hijack Dunny's acct?

          Canelo won a vacant 154lb belt vs the Notorious Ricky Hatton's brother. Thats not a cherry pick fight that was a f#cking gift fight.

          Canelo won the 160lb belt vs a 35 year old Miguel Cotto who beat a one legged Sergio Martinez for the belt.

          Canelo unifies 160lb belts by beating the man known the world over Liam Smith who got his vacant belt by beating the ESPN tournament champion.

          And then he lifted some belts off of GGG in a fight most people thought he lost. Not to mention GGG being a guy Canelo threw a belt in the garbage over to put off fighting him til he was 35 & 36 years old.

          Come the f#ck on man. You should know the resume game never has a winner its just a L for both guys, but ffs you know mfing well Canelo's belts were gifts or low risk propositions so why you even throwing that bs out there?!?!?!

          Now I anxiously await for you to bring up some other sh^t I wasn't talking about originally to move the goalposts again cuz you feel like making up reasons to disagree with me about a very obvious to make comparison here cuz Broner & Canelo are making the same f#cking move regardless of some side bs you can make in your desperation to invent some disagreement about some sh^t you know is the f#cking same thing. You are just on some weirdo GGG hater sh^t probably so you gotta build up Canelo or w/e agenda you got here.

          I just try to call it like I see it & believe in this nutty sh^t you mighta heard of called "facts" that doesn't allow me to fanboy or hate on anyone TOO MUCH.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Huh?!?!?! I didn't even wanna get into all this resume bs cuz I hate resume sh^t & my point has nothing to do with resume it has to do with moving up to fight for a belt, which is usually a bold move for anyone to do, but doing it against the worst belt holder in the division which is quite a lackluster move.

            But are you f#cking sh^tting me Canelo didn't cherry pick his way to the top? And respect to Canelo, he's the better fight between him & Broner I'm not saying that isn't the case at all as I've stated a couple times to your reaching for a silly argument ass already.

            Do you even watch boxing? Did someone hijack Dunny's acct?

            Canelo won a vacant 154lb belt vs the Notorious Ricky Hatton's brother. Thats not a cherry pick fight that was a f#cking gift fight.

            Canelo won the 160lb belt vs a 35 year old Miguel Cotto who beat a one legged Sergio Martinez for the belt.

            Canelo unifies 160lb belts by beating the man known the world over Liam Smith who got his vacant belt by beating the ESPN tournament champion.

            And then he lifted some belts off of GGG in a fight most people thought he lost. Not to mention GGG being a guy Canelo threw a belt in the garbage over to put off fighting him til he was 35 & 36 years old.

            Come the f#ck on man. You should know the resume game never has a winner its just a L for both guys, but ffs you know mfing well Canelo's belts were gifts or low risk propositions so why you even throwing that bs out there?!?!?!

            Now I anxiously await for you to bring up some other sh^t I wasn't talking about originally to move the goalposts again cuz you feel like making up reasons to disagree with me about a very obvious to make comparison here cuz Broner & Canelo are making the same f#cking move regardless of some side bs you can make in your desperation to invent some disagreement about some sh^t you know is the f#cking same thing. You are just on some weirdo GGG hater sh^t probably so you gotta build up Canelo or w/e agenda you got here.

            I just try to call it like I see it & believe in this nutty sh^t you mighta heard of called "facts" that doesn't allow me to fanboy or hate on anyone TOO MUCH.
            Did canelo face and beat the best at 154 and 160? Yes or no? Did broner face and beat the best at any weight class? Yes or no? Answer that. Thats why broner got shyt and little respect for cherry picking 147. This ain't rocket science and stop spinning this you mad because you made a ****** comparison bringing up bum azzz laughing stock broner. There are tons of valid comparisons of great fighters coming off great wins trying to pad their already great resumes by jumping up just for a belt. Roy did it at heavyweight, sugar Ray did it at 168, Manny Pacquiao did it at 154 leave ****** broner out it. Broner doesn't qualify. It's obvious why broner wasn't treated like canelo and these guys because he beat nobody. I'll repeat myself.

            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            It's like a QB who has already won super bowls already destined for the hall of fame but the coach leaves him in the last game of the season to run the score up in a game he already won just to break a passing record. Cool stat to add to his legacy but doesnt define it. Not treated the same as a bum QB who never won jack on a losing team but stays in late in a nothing middle season game that they are losing just to try and break a passing record. That's Broner.
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              #86
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              Did canelo face and beat the best at 154 and 160? Yes or no? Did broner face and beat the best at any weight class? Yes or no? Answer that.
              Do either of those questions have a mfing thing to do with my comparison? I'll answer for you. No they ain't got sh^t to do with two cherry picking title guys moving up in weight to fight the worst title holder. Quit moving the goalposts.

              Thats why broner got shyt and little respect for cherry picking 147.
              LOL wut? So you don't think a highly considered guy, if not the best guy (cuz I think Broner was #1 at 135 at the time just like Canelo is #1 at 160 now), who fights the worst title holder in the next division up (or 2 divisions up) is kinda doing some gay sh^t?

              Come on man for real? I mean fair play on the keep busy fight or w/e, but its still a weak move for the best guy to do. At least go middle of the road with the title holders.

              Roy did it at heavyweight, sugar Ray did it at 168, Manny Pacquiao did it at 154
              Who's saying SRL didn't cherry pick situations? He tried to cherry pick Terry Norris too, & later Hector Sr & that sh^t went horribly wrong for him. And I believe SRL got some sh^t & gets sh^t for that fight over Lalonde. Hell man some people say SRL cherry picked Hagler at just the right time to (personally thats a bit much for me & its the all time best cherry pick upside fight if it was a cherry pick). So SRL gets sh^t for his crimes against opponent selection.

              I don't think I could call Pacquiao vs Margarito a cherry pick doe. Granted Margarito lost some luster with the Paul Williams & Mosley L's, but he was a big ass mfer & Manny was a lil ass mfer. That was more like a gift title situation for both guys to make the fight to begin with iirc.

              And the RJJ thing was an incredible jump up in weight that few have done in boxing history so while I see why you brought it up cuz its the basic situation I'm talking about I'd agree its different cuz of how many lbs we are talking about gaining.

              It's like a QB who has already won super bowls already destined for the hall of fame but the coach leaves him in the last game of the season to run the score up in a game he already won just to break a passing record. Cool stat to add to his legacy but doesnt define it. Not treated the same as a bum QB who never won jack on a losing team but stays in late in a nothing middle season game that they are losing just to try and break a passing record. That's Broner.
              Idk why you thought the need to bring up this horrible analogy twice.

              The main fact you keep ignoring, rightfully cuz it does your goalpost moving ass no favors, is the reality at the time was the reality at the time. Sure Broner has went to hell in a handbasket since then, but he was highly thought of, iirc the #1 guy in his division & a P4P discussed guy back when that went down...just like Canelo is now. So the QB quality disparity in your analogy isn't as severe in what the reality was vs what you are trying to act like it was when said events happened or are about to happen in Canelo's case vs Fielding.
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                #87
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Do either of those questions have a mfing thing to do with my comparison? I'll answer for you. No they ain't got sh^t to do with two cherry picking title guys moving up in weight to fight the worst title holder. Quit moving the goalposts.
                Dumb azzz you crying asking why isn't canelo being treated like ****** broner then ignore the most obvious answer to that question you moved the goal post to ignore the answer. He ducked every top guy at the lower weights and moved up without fighting and beating the best. That's why he is viewed a joke. Canelo did what other greats did fight and beat the best in multiple weight classes, multiple boogymen and is now jumping up to grab a belt at a much higher weight that we all know he isn't going to defend. Stop making this complicated and looking for a ****** comparison and making a fool out yourself going this hard to defend. Want a comparison sugar Ray who is small after just 1 fight at middleweight and beating hagler moves up to snatch the168 belt that he was never going to defend then going back down to 160. Just so he could add a footnote to a already great resume.

                The rest of your shyt you wrote is you flailing around embarrassing yourself...you want to ask why broner not treated like canelo but ignore broner not doing what canelo did before jumping to 147. But we can keep going with this and I'll just keep humiliating you for even putting broner in the middle of this. Wave the white flag and just admit you overstepped all logic adding broner clown azzz in this. Roy Jones, Sugar Ray, Manny are your comps to canelo and all were treated different then broner for the most obvious reason they cleaned out divisions, beat top dogs in multiple weight classes broner has never done this in any. LMAO

                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                It's like a QB who has already won super bowls already destined for the hall of fame but the coach leaves him in the last game of the season to run the score up in a game he already won just to break a passing record. Cool stat to add to his legacy but doesnt define it. Not treated the same as a bum QB who never won jack on a losing team but stays in late in a nothing middle season game that they are losing just to try and break a passing record. That's Broner.
                Why isn't Matthew Stafford getting the same credit for padding yards
                and breaking a record in a losing effort as Tom Brady? Are you phuking ******.
                Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-07-2018, 11:31 AM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Dumb azzz you crying asking why isn't canelo being treated like ****** broner then ignore the most obvious answer to that question you moved the goal post to ignore the answer.
                  You are arguing other sh^t you ******. And the "goalpost" ain't got nothing to do with resume like I've said every time you brought up resume bs.

                  Stop making this complicated
                  I'm making it complicated? You're the one bringing up SRL sh^t from the old timey modern days. You're bringing up resumes.

                  This whole thing is about the best guy in a division moving up to a new division to fight the worst title holder. Nothing more, nothing less. And you are bringing up side sh^t & extra sh^t & old timey sh^t that has little to do with my comparison.

                  Why isn't Matthew Stafford getting the same credit for padding yards
                  and breaking a record in a losing effort as Tom Brady? Are you phuking ******.
                  I don't even watch football. Quit with this silly ass other sport comparison when there is a comparison to make with Broner AND Sugar Ray getting sh^t for cherry picking a title.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    not for a belt and it wasn't at 168. 3 division world champ sounds much better then anything GGG has accomplished is the bottom line.
                    Sonds great but its like the used car you bought that turned out to be not all that.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Easy to say GGG could of did it when he puzzzied out and never moved up or down in weight instead fighting lower tier bums at 160. Who is better tougher fight Fielding at 168 or Vanes? LMAO
                      Fielding or Vanes. Fielding has no chance of beating Canelo and Vanes had no chance if beating Golovkin. So both fights were and are stinkers.Fielding may last longer because he's bigger but even that is debatable.

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