GGG talks the talk while Canelo walks the walk. "154-168 EZFOMI"- CANELO

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  • Diego Rodriguez
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    #71
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    im sorry man...i know you wanna seperate yourself from golovkin fans when it suits you....but in general most of his forum fans are gonna get lumped in together and thats just the way it is....you might not have said something specifically but realize that not every poster is going to read everything you post or remember your opinion you previously shared....

    the fight was close...if you think golovkin won i wont call you crazy....and id expect the same when i tell people i think canelo won....but golovkins people cant accept the L....they claim robbery and claim canelo cant lose in vegas and all that other crap....whenever canelo is mentioned or there is a post about him you will find some guy crying somewere in it about how golovkin was screwed....you should be encouraging his fans on the forums to accept the loss in a closely contested fight
    This is why you are exactly the type of problem with this board. I specifically told you my stance yet you want to bring it back and say "when it suits me". The problem is people here want to speak in generalizations about other fans. I am not interested in that. if you want to talk boxing with someone one on one I'm here for that. That's a rational discussion, I'm not going to be sitting here defending some clown who I may not agree with. If you are more interested in engaging in battles based on your perception of the general fanbase then have at it with some fanatic GGG fan. I'm not going to lump all Canelo fans into one group because some of the total tools on here. I view them as tools not all Canelo fans.

    If you mean they have to accept the loss as the official decision, yeah that's boxing. That doesn't mean they have to accept in their eyes that Canelo was the winner. I never called either fight a robbery but do I believe there is corruption in boxing. Do I believe that the playing field is level, nope, that's corruption which shouldn't be confused with outright bribery. That didn't just start with Canelo vs. Golovkin. That was known before the fight. If someone wants to call it a robbery make your case. If someone says Golovkin dominated him call them out. If someone says Canelo is a ***** rip them a new one. I just say do it to the individual and this mass generalizations/stereotype doesn't further the discussion or the sport.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #72
      Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
      This is why you are exactly the type of problem with this board. I specifically told you my stance yet you want to bring it back and say "when it suits me". The problem is people here want to speak in generalizations about other fans. I am not interested in that. if you want to talk boxing with someone one on one I'm here for that. That's a rational discussion, I'm not going to be sitting here defending some clown who I may not agree with. If you are more interested in engaging in battles based on your perception of the general fanbase then have at it with some fanatic GGG fan. I'm not going to lump all Canelo fans into one group because some of the total tools on here. I view them as tools not all Canelo fans.

      If you mean they have to accept the loss as the official decision, yeah that's boxing. That doesn't mean they have to accept in their eyes that Canelo was the winner. I never called either fight a robbery but do I believe there is corruption in boxing. Do I believe that the playing field is level, nope, that's corruption which shouldn't be confused with outright bribery. That didn't just start with Canelo vs. Golovkin. That was known before the fight. If someone wants to call it a robbery make your case. If someone says Golovkin dominated him call them out. If someone says Canelo is a ***** rip them a new one. I just say do it to the individual and this mass generalizations/stereotype doesn't further the discussion or the sport.
      the problem with this board is some people cant accept losses and reality...have a good day sir....

      and fyi...ive seen your posts before...you are exactly the type of problem as well

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      • Diego Rodriguez
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        #73
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        the problem with this board is some people cant accept losses and reality...have a good day sir....

        and fyi...ive seen your posts before...you are exactly the type of problem as well
        You are whining because people don’t accept losses? People have been discussing decision since boxing’s been around. No you got a problem because they don’t accept your decision and your reality.

        I’m willing to treat everyone on an individual basis. You have clearly demonstrated you want to get in the Golovkin fan base is this and that. Go for it, that’s small minded stuff to me.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
          You are whining because people don’t accept losses? People have been discussing decision since boxing’s been around. No you got a problem because they don’t accept your decision and your reality.

          I’m willing to treat everyone on an individual basis. You have clearly demonstrated you want to get in the Golovkin fan base is this and that. Go for it, that’s small minded stuff to me.
          I think whining about people not accepting losses is more acceptable than whining about how your guy didn't lose when he lost

          piss off...you are delusional and a lil gggroupie that cant accept reality...you've always been a gggroupie and always will be.....ride for your boy tho don't let me stop you! even though u look like a complete whiney tool

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          • Diego Rodriguez
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            #75
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            I think whining about people not accepting losses is more acceptable than whining about how your guy didn't lose when he lost

            piss off...you are delusional and a lil gggroupie that cant accept reality...you've always been a gggroupie and always will be.....ride for your boy tho don't let me stop you! even though u look like a complete whiney tool
            What the hell are you even saying? So I guess you admit you are whining. Okay. Keep at it.

            You mad Curt? You got owned. You can’t handle a one on one discussion so you resort to lumping everyone together.

            I’m sure I’ve told you his before, but we both know you are a loser in life who has accomplished crap. It is clear as day you don’t have the intellectual or emotional balance to be successful at anything that requires thought. Beat it chump, get back to flipping burgers.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #76
              Shocked at all these touchdown dances for Canelo for going to fight the worst title holder at 168. Broner moved up to fight the worst title holder & got sh^t on & he's not even as highly considered as Canelo so that was more bold of him then this is of a superior fighter to fight the lowest guy on the 168lb totem pole.

              Also do we know this is a legit 168lb fight? Are is this fight gonna happen at 161lbs, 163lbs or 165lbs or some sorta catchweight? Lets not forget how slowly he moved to legit 160lbs. He even made JCC Jr fight at 164lbs (a weight JCC Jr hadn't fought at or below in 5 years) in their catchweight fight.

              Rocky Fielding hasn't fought pro below 167 ever. If this fight happens at legit 168 I'll be at least a lil surprised.

              Randomly how is this not a thing being asked about or did I just miss the confirmation this will be a 168lb weight limit fight????

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              • Dontbeahater
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                #77
                Canelo at least fights.... He's fighting again this year. Ggg is not.. Why isn't ggg fighting? His legacy is falling apart here. You want to focus on weightclasses when ggg demands to only fight in his weight class ever.

                Now ggg has the same legacy at Kovalev and Roman. Good boxer but not atg. HBO hype job.

                Mark my words, when ggg gets beat again all you fanboys will run off that train just like the past 2 hbo/espn/Dan Rafael hype jobs Roman and kov. Remember when espn ranked ggg in the top 25 atg.

                Ggg knows he can't fight anyone athletic so imo only chasing big money fights against bums. The blueprint is out there in how to beat him. Beat him Mexican style on his back foot. everyone will fight him this way. Just like everyone fights Roman like cuandras and sol and kov like ward and Alvarez.

                And stop with this prime ggg. Prime ggg didn't take any challenges with his diva demands so we will never know. Blame ggg for that because he could have compromised. But it's everyone else fault that he didn't fight anybody!

                Ggg made you look ****** and you drank the kool-aid.

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Shocked at all these touchdown dances for Canelo for going to fight the worst title holder at 168. Broner moved up to fight the worst title holder & got sh^t on & he's not even as highly considered as Canelo so that was more bold of him then this is of a superior fighter to fight the lowest guy on the 168lb totem pole.
                  Comparing this to broner is just dumb broner gets killed because he lost all his fights with too fighters usually in horrible fashion to boot. Avoided or lost to all top guys while getting vacant and paper belts. Canelo literally has one if not the best resume in boxing today. Has already beaten the boogyman in multiple weight classes, multiple future hall of famers. You want to compare this a better comparison is Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, Manny Pacquiao great fighters already hall of fame level resumes who held belts then jumped up a weight to beat a lower ranked champ when they had no intentions of staying at that weight and immediately jumped back down to defend their titles. But that win added to all their legacies and is a footnote when you discuss their careers the day Roy Jones became heavyweight champ you skip over the fact that Lennox Lewis was the man and that he beat the worst champ Ruiz. Nobody will talk about broner in the same sentence as all time greats but you will canelo and when they tell the story they will say 3 division champ the kid who turned pro at 139 and ultimately became super middleweight champ. If he does it won't be his greatest achievement just like it wasn't Roy's, or sugar Ray's or Manny's but it's on the resume.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    Comparing this to broner is just dumb broner gets killed because he lost all his fights with too fighters usually in horrible fashion to boot.
                    How soon people forgot. Its sad when regs here don't recall some 5 year ago sh^t.

                    Who's talking about "all his losses"? I'm talking about one fight. Do you remember when Broner was undefeated & a P4P discussed guy as crazy as that sound now lol?

                    I'm talking when Broner jumped from 135 to 147 to fight the worst title holder at 147. People dogged that move cuz Broner did exactly what Canelo is doing here, but somehow its more impressive when Canelo is doing it & he's for sure getting far less sh^t over it.

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      How soon people forgot. Its sad when regs here don't recall some 5 year ago sh^t.

                      Who's talking about "all his losses"? I'm talking about one fight. Do you remember when Broner was undefeated & a P4P discussed guy as crazy as that sound now lol?

                      I'm talking when Broner jumped from 135 to 147 to fight the worst title holder at 147. People dogged that move cuz Broner did exactly what Canelo is doing here, but somehow its more impressive when Canelo is doing it & he's for sure getting far less sh^t over it.
                      Again who did broner beat at any of those weight classes that is comparable to who canelo has beaten that's why it's just dumb. Canelo already has a hall of fame resume and beat the boogyman at 154 and 160. The reason broner got clowned then and now is he never fought and beat those top guys even before the took Ls he beat paper champs and won vacant belts. Name his great wins before he jumped to 147?... exactly. Canelo resume already has wins over GGG, Cotto, Trout, Lara, Mosley, ect and already lineal and unified champ. Broner never unified, never lineal, didn't beat the top guys at those weights, no hall of famers, no p4p ranked fighters come on dude this is just plain dumb comparison. What canelo is doing is what other greats who already had great careers did like Roy, Sugar Ray, Manny did not trash bag broner who will never be in canelo's company.

                      Sugar Ray already established his greatness before he jumped to 168 just for a belt. Roy Jones already established his greatness before he jumped to heavyweight just for a belt, Manny Pacquiao already established his greatness before he jumped to 154 just for a belt. Canelo already established his greatness he is already a hall of famer right now jumping to 168 just for a belt. Broner doesn't belong in this sentence ****** comparison
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-07-2018, 09:05 AM.

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