It's good to see people are finally seeing Wilder ducked

[Bjl12]

It's not the same though because atleast GGG had the majority belts.

Wilders resume SHITS on Gennadys and Wilder has a HORRIBLE resume.

When you come into a negotiation with an A side and have "demands" you are actively trying to get OUT of the fight.

Gennady ran from a Younger Canelo and wound up getting whooped twice anyways. AJ will beat Deontay although that fight wont matter as much after this Fury fight.

I like Tyson MD in a fight where Tyson gets off the floor, but is more consistent and effective throughout the fight.

Deontay is a 1 truck pony - straight right hand. What is best defense against straight punches??? Lateral movement. What is the cardinal attribute of Tyson??? Lateral movement.

Oh and Tyson is bigger than Deontay. He'll either fight from the outside or get inside and bulldog Deontay who has ZERO inside game

[Jax teller]

Wilders resume SHITS on Gennadys and Wilder has a HORRIBLE resume.

When you come into a negotiation with an A side and have "demands" you are actively trying to get OUT of the fight.

Gennady ran from a Younger Canelo and wound up getting whooped twice anyways. AJ will beat Deontay although that fight wont matter as much after this Fury fight.

I like Tyson MD in a fight where Tyson gets off the floor, but is more consistent and effective throughout the fight.

Deontay is a 1 truck pony - straight right hand. What is best defense against straight punches??? Lateral movement. What is the cardinal attribute of Tyson??? Lateral movement.

Oh and Tyson is bigger than Deontay. He'll either fight from the outside or get inside and bulldog Deontay who has ZERO inside game

Nah I think you're giving too much credit too Wilder. What three guys has he got on level with Jacobs, Brook and Lemieux (even)? Even his draw with Nelo is more impressive than most of Wilders wins.

My point was Wilder is a weaker b-side than GGG due him to having all the belts in the fight and Canelo only having the draw, AJ has more belts and the draw.

[champion4ever]

Neither side wanted the fight this year. That is clear as day. You dont offer flat fees if you want make a massive fight. You dont make huge offers then refuse to meet. You dont make arbitrary deadlines. You dont go to the oppositions biggest rival to discuss numbers and raise funds.

Wouldnt surprise me one single bit if both camps met and decided they could drum up more interest through protracted negotiations. Turn a really big fight into a superfight. Thats how cynical I am about this sport. Its a dangerous game though. Wilder and Joshua are really good, but they aren't untouchable. Both could easily lose fighting solid contenders on the wrong night.

To be honest I am sick of the whole thing already. There isnt enough talent at HW for them to not fight each other. Once Wilder beats this version of Fury they have to meet next year. Have to.

Don't believe the hype Bro. That's part of Matchroom Boxing's propaganda machine at play. In order to save face, they would want for the British public to believe that Wilder didn't want the fight which is absolutely false.

Why you may ask? It's because if he didn't, then why would he risk challenging his second back to back, undefeated and high profile opponent in Tyson Fury, if he wasn't serious about fighting Anthony Joshua in 2018? This fight is his gift and consolation prize to boxing fans.

[travestyny]

At least I admit to be a Wilder fan.

That guy literally hates every brit with all his guts. I like Wilder. sometimes. Not when he tries to be "serious" because that's cringe AF, but he's good in the ring.

Fair enough.


Respect, homie.

[Tom Cruise]

Don't believe the hype Bro. That's part of Matchroom Boxing's propaganda machine at play. In order to save face, they would want for the British public to believe that Wilder didn't want the fight which is absolutely false.

Why you may ask? It's because if he didn't, then why would he risk challenging his second back to back, undefeated and high profile opponent in Tyson Fury, if he wasn't serious about fighting Anthony Joshua in 2018? This fight is his gift and consolation prize to boxing fans.

21 year old 9 fight Daniel Dubois fought a better opponent Sat night than Fury has faced in 3 years. The man has abused his body with drugs, food and alcohol, wasn’t in training. It’s a big fight profile wise, but forgive me if I’m not that excited for it as a match up. I think it will just be a matter of time before Wilder catches him.

[champion4ever]

21 year old 9 fight Daniel Dubois fought a better opponent Sat night than Fury has faced in 3 years. The man has abused his body with drugs, food and alcohol, wasn’t in training. It’s a big fight profile wise, but forgive me if I’m not that excited for it as a match up. I think it will just be a matter of time before Wilder catches him.

I agree with everything you just said because it's true. He chose Fury because he knew his name would help garner mainstream crossover appeal for the fight.

Certainly, Fury is not the same fighter he was three years ago; Because physically, his body has aged due to all the abuse he has put it through. I understand all of that.

However, at least he is still undefeated. No man has ever defeated him in the ring and he has never lost his title belts in the ring either.

Besides, what has Daniel Dubois has ever achieved in the ring that Tyson Fury hasn't?

[New England]

This is the guy who had Wilder's back after 35 fights saying "he still needs time" even though he turned pro in 2008.

The same guy criticized AJ for taking on #3 Povetkin and making fun of UK fans who bought the fight, in spite of AJ not even having laced up amateur gloves when Wilder turned pro.

He's the definition of a fanboy.

this idea that i've been some kind of wilder fanboy for years and years is an increidbly pathetic strawman. please accuse me of being a wilder fanboy more frequently, i need a laugh. i've been incredibnly critical of wilder's development and his resume. go back and dig up my posts. you'll find a theme in them. "he hardly know show to box." really, just google my name + bscene + hardlyknows how to box, and which threads come up?


that you relaly think that i am a fanboy of wilder, and that you are not a fanboyo of joshua or literally a fanboy of eddie hearn, is just laughable! it's laughable! you're not only guilty of being enamored iwth the only british HW champion in your lifetime to become a global star, but you're guilty of being enamored iwth his promoter to the point that you don't want big fights! it's f#cking weird!



the povetkin fight was criticized because it was an input by the WBA obviosuly at the request of hearn to get a fight in between joshya and wilder. this is not the firs titme that eddie has done this! he tried to make iwlder ifht dilliain white, FFS! he sent over an "offer" to wilder [obviously been proven to be a lowball, evidenced by the amunt of american money offered at another time, the subsequent shift to a purse split and a bigger offer by hearn, and a contengency on wilder beating fury, which will obviusly build a figh tin england,] made it contingent on being agreed to that week, and didn't have a date or a venue. he admitted this!


i fully expect you to have little to no idea what is going on in these negiations. your problem is that you believe every word from the mouth of eddie hearn, a man whjo is very inconsistent and who talks WAY TOO MUCH to not get caught lying.


do you believe eddie hearn wanted this fight in 2018? honest quesiton.

[New England]

The same way they announced this fight without a date and venue 😂😂😂😂

Go and look at Boxing Socials recent interview with shelley finkel. The amount of hypocrisy coming out of that mans mouth is unreal.

They are constantly calling out Joshua. Why? they got a contract and didn’t sign it on terms they accepted. They then said the offer they accepted was crap. Yet it’s Hearns fault.

Absolutely hilarious.

dude fights in las vegas are very often signed without a venue in place. it gives you real negotiating power and THE CASINOS COME TO YOU WITH OFFERS OF MONEY. nobody wanted to make the fight in 2019, like hearn. this is not how it happens anywhere else in the world, stop acting like they are honest comparisons. this is standard procedure in las vegas, and why the biggest fights in the world are staged here. outside of las vegas it is not! wilder's team wanted to fight in 2018 and hearn wasn't even committing to the year!

stop being so f#kcing dishonest, nobobyd tkaes you seriously anymore. most of thebrits have left the forum until joshua fdight siwlder.

[N/A]

Lol going by your recent crying of Wilders purse being much higher than whats declared, AJ's must be higher than this as well.

You're comparing the number Wilder files with the commission with the number AJ's promoter claims publicly. Promoters usually publicly inflate purses while filing deflated purses with the commission. So where is the logic in going by filed purse for Wilder while using publicly claimed purse for AJ?

What is AJ's filed purse? I keep asking, but nobody will answer.

[Jax teller]

You're comparing the number Wilder files with the commission with the number AJ's promoter claims publicly. Promoters usually publicly inflate purses while filing deflated purses with the commission. So where is the logic in going by filed purse for Wilder while using publicly claimed purse for AJ?

What is AJ's filed purse? I keep asking, but nobody will answer.

Okay you don't seem to be answering it either, Mr "Wilder commits fraud so you don't know how much he earns"