Anyone who thinks Wilder has a chance knows shiat about boxing.

[hugh grant]

Fury does not hit as hard as Ortiz and chin has alwas been suspect to begin with. Nevan Pajkic and Steve Cunningham both put him on the mat. If Wilder connects like those two did, Fury isn't getting up.

Possibly. But fury is younger than ortiz. Ortiz is used to koing people so he was probably exhausted when he went down against wilder.But
Plus fury is greater than ortiz in general.

[famicommander]

Possibly. But fury is younger than ortiz. Ortiz is used to koing people so he was probably exhausted when he went down against wilder.But
Plus fury is greater than ortiz in general.

Fury WAS greater than Ortiz in general. He isn't anymore, and at no point in his career was he close to as good of a puncher as Ortiz. Better boxer, sure.

[billeau2]

People have gotten so into hit and don't be hit back boxing they completely disregard boxing's origins or the fact that the old ways never failed they simply went out of fashion.

***ish boxing is in no way superior to Spartan pygmachia, having an affinity for cuties doesn't make you knowledgeable, and disregarding the only skill set that has ever produced any retired undefeated HW champion of the world is obviously silly.

Being what you call a puncher takes a lot more than it does to be a boxer. For most people who ever lived boxing is a must to be successful in the sport. Most people who ever lived do not have what it takes to meet the requirements to even theoretically be a world champion caliber "puncher". Of course you'll see it fail more often than succeed. Most do not have what it takes athletically. That doesn't mean there isn't art to it. There is posture, position, baiting, studying, timing, angles, and it takes more athleticism than running ever did. What else do you need?

This post is an example of the positive use of stereotype and understanding the big picture. Yes there is a notion that the puncher is brutish nasty and short (had to get Hobbes in there somehow)... and the boxer is the technician. This is a fallacy of the highest order. All anyone has to do is watch a puncher, watch a pressure fighter, to see how they use technique to be succesful. All approaches to pugalism at the highest level take extraordinary technical skills. I implore people to watch tapes of Marciano its all there.

It is also interesting that the ***s in boxing, while they held sway, gravitated to certain technical approaches and BTW Max Bauer was not ***ish... or so it was rumered.

Finally and to me this is important... the puncher is at a disadvantage because of the 12 round fight. Punchers benefit from those last rounds more than the defensive wizards. I think about this often considering a match like Fury versus Wilder. Fury has to avoid a right hand essentially for little more than 10 rounds, we need those last three rounds! to give the puncher that much needed opportunity to catch the boxer.

[hugh grant]

Fury WAS greater than Ortiz in general. He isn't anymore, and at no point in his career was he close to as good of a puncher as Ortiz. Better boxer, sure.

Well, as fury at his best was greater than ortiz, fury might be able to take 2 years out abuse himself. And it might only take a year's training and be better than ortiz simply cos fury latent potential is greater than ortiz. If you can fight you can fight like fury said.
Plus fury has 19 kos. You get the impression fury punch harder if he wanted but seems content to outbox you

[Combat Talk Radio]

Wilder is just banking on a lucky shot, that won't work.

Same was said of Luis Ortiz. We saw what happened.

All in saying is fury has the weight to absorb blows better

Weight, you say?

[BillyBoxing]

Nevan Pajkic and Steve Cunningham both put Fury on the mat BEFORE his 2 and a half year steroid/*******/booze/Twinkie vacation. No way Fury's chin or mobility are better now than they were back then.

Fury is getting destroyed. Best case scenario is he gets up and leaves the ring in relatively good health instead of lying on the floor twitching like Liahkovich, babbling incoherently at the post fight presser like Washington, or on a stretcher like Szpilka.

Liahkovich lost his two previous fights by stoppage when he fought Wilder, dude didn't have any once of punch resistance left and was shot, I don't know why wins over completely shot fighters should be regarded as a reference for this kinda fight.

[KillaMane26]

U eating dogfood....This fight woulda been 50/50 if Fury aint take a layoff. Right now its 60/40 ish depending on how Fury looks in camp

[Zn1]

damn right son, Fury getting that KO and dancing on a bum's grave

[Guest]

Wilder don't punch harder than fury in this fight they are equal punchers as wilder hasn't got the weight to absorb the blows

I thought you watched boxing, son?

Come on now...

[famicommander]

Liahkovich lost his two previous fights by stoppage when he fought Wilder, dude didn't have any once of punch resistance left and was shot, I don't know why wins over completely shot fighters should be regarded as a reference for this kinda fight.

...because Fury is clearly shot? If he were really in this comeback for the long haul, he'd have fought someone better than Pianeta before taking a title fight.

But he knew he didn't even have enough left in the tank to fight a guy like Jennings, Hammer, Kownacki, or Johnson. Too big of risk to derail this cashout.