Comments Thread For: Promoter: I Just Don't See Anthony Joshua Beating Jarrell Miller

[billeau2]

No one outside of the states would have Miller above Povetkin, that would be ******. It has nothing to do with being bias. But it is ironic that two Americans have no problem with putting Miller above Povetkin even though Miller has done less and would lose in a head to head fight. So the bias isn't with me here i'm afraid.

How would you know what everybody would have? It has nothing to do with a bias yet people by their nationality are baised? Are you really that slow!!!!? You keep contradicting yourself, you are beating yourself up here. So people are biased because of their nationality but there is no bias?

And you don't speak for Americans, Brits, or any other large group. You never even asked me who I thought was better Miller or Povatkin and By the way I am as American as they come. You can read what I said about the comparison it is in another post, I never said one guy is better than another though...Question do you speak for me as well? because EVERY American must feel the same way?

As far as a head to head Miller would beat the crap out of Povatkin at this point and I bet a lot of brits feel the same way. Povatkin in his twilight was a skilled and excellent fighter and would probably beat this version of Miller coming up IF he was a little younger. He does not have the stamina to keep up and he would not KO Miller.

So heres something else to be aware of Miller is known to have a very good beard, he was a kickboxer for many years so there is history on his abilities to take a punch and kick.

You are a bigot. You make assumptions about a person's proclivities and choices based on their nationality. And like most bigots you show a lack of intellectual ability, namely the ability to argue a point cogently without contradicting yourself.

THe only other possibility is that you are very young and if that is the case then I sincerely apologize to you and would encourage you to keep refining your thinking and writing skills addressing the points made... If you are anything from about 13 to 16 then the way you address the points is a great start...I would simply admonish you to reconsider that a person's nationality would have such affect on their thinking.

[billeau2]

I got the same top 3, Joshua, Wilder & Whyte. Been unimpressed with Whyte, thought he lost to Del Boy, but that Parker W was nice & is his career defining W so far.

I don't do a hard ranking of guys outside of the top 5 usually, but considering that Povetkin just took an L & doesn't have THAT impressive of recent resume (Price, Hammer & the best two guys are the same guys Big Baby has just beaten) I consider him 5ish.

Parker I consider a bottom top 10 guy after two L's & nothing to really get excited about unless you go back to his title winning performance vs Ruiz & that isn't THAT impressive.

Pulev hasn't fought in a year & a half so I don't even rank him.

Ortiz I got in that 5ish area to cuz while he doesn't got a career defining win like Whyte didn't have til recently himself he showed a lot in his L not unlike Whyte did vs Joshua to some people.

Kabayel I can't even put into my top 10 off of the Del Boy W.

Del Boy is barely in the top 10 probably despite the Kabayel L due to that Takam W & what I feel was a close unofficial W or close official L (depending on how you viewed it) over Whyte.

And yea I could see Breazeale, Kownacki & Fury fighting for the bottom of the top ten spots.

And as for Big Baby as I said I think he's in that 5ish range off of the same 2 W's that are Povetkin's best W's in recent years over Wach & Duhaupas + the Washington W.

So putting those thoughts in a actual 1-10 ranking I think my HW top 10 would be:

1)Joshua - lock at #1
2)Wilder - lock at #2
3)Whyte - lock at #3
4)Ortiz - wouldn't argue very hard with 4-6 being in any order
5)Big Baby - wouldn't argue with very hard 4-6 being in any order
6)Povetkin - wouldn't argue very hard with 4-6 being in any order
7)Fury - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
8)Parker - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
9)Kownacki - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
10)Breazeale - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order

And I guess that'd leave Del Boy at 11, but I wouldn't fault anyone for having him in the bottom of the top 10.

These lists drive me nuts as well. It might suprise Sidknee that I think Dillon Whyte is chronically underestimated and is a potential sleeper in this group. He moves well, has good combo punching ability and a really good beard. He fought well against Joshua just hurt himself unfortunately.

I think Whyte is avoided because there is a fear of his ability. I would take Whyte over Miller right now and possibly over Wilder. Whyte took a lot of shots from Joshua and took them well. Del Boy always gives a good effort hes a gate keeper to me at this point.