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  • champion4ever
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    #81
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    Being in the top 10 should be done on merit, not hype. Miller has fought nobody to speak of.

    Washington is a nobody that hasn't even beat a decent fighter. A win over him means absolutely nothing.

    When did Miller come close to proving he had a beard? He's never fought anyone who punched back. And even if they did, they were all pretty much light hitters.

    I think you should beat someone with a bit of substance before you get a world title shot. Sorry, but beating shot fighters doesn't do it for me.
    Why do you always do that? Every time there is a potential threat to AJ you always say they are an unworthy challenger or unworthy of a title shot. However, Jarrell Miller is currently ranked no. 4 for Joshua's WBA title and ranked no. 3 for his WBO title. So how do you explain that?

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      #82
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Why do you always do that? Every time there is a potential threat to AJ you always say they are an unworthy challenger or unworthy of a title shot. However, Jarrell Miller is currently ranked no. 4 for Joshua's WBA title and ranked no. 3 for his WBO title. So how do you explain that?
      nobody is worthy of The Joshua until they run the Hearn Gauntlet.


      Chisora
      Whyte
      Bellew
      BONUS ROUND
      Joshua

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        #83
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        1) Joshua (Obvious reasons)
        2) Wilder (Beat Ortiz)
        3) Whyte (Beat Parker)
        4) Povetkin (Beat Takam, Huck and Perez. Beat the bums Miller did but much earlier and in better fashion)
        5) Parker (Beat Takam, Fury and Ruiz)
        6) Pulev (Beat Chisora and Thompson)
        7) Ortiz (Beat Jennings)
        8) Kabayel (Beat Chisora)
        9) Chisora (Beat Takam)
        10) Breazeale (Beat undefeated prospect Ugonoh and Molina)
        11) Kownacki (Beat Martin)
        12) T Fury (Obvious reasons)

        Where would you realistically put him? What argument do you have for doing so?
        I got the same top 3, Joshua, Wilder & Whyte. Been unimpressed with Whyte, thought he lost to Del Boy, but that Parker W was nice & is his career defining W so far.

        I don't do a hard ranking of guys outside of the top 5 usually, but considering that Povetkin just took an L & doesn't have THAT impressive of recent resume (Price, Hammer & the best two guys are the same guys Big Baby has just beaten) I consider him 5ish.

        Parker I consider a bottom top 10 guy after two L's & nothing to really get excited about unless you go back to his title winning performance vs Ruiz & that isn't THAT impressive.

        Pulev hasn't fought in a year & a half so I don't even rank him.

        Ortiz I got in that 5ish area to cuz while he doesn't got a career defining win like Whyte didn't have til recently himself he showed a lot in his L not unlike Whyte did vs Joshua to some people.

        Kabayel I can't even put into my top 10 off of the Del Boy W.

        Del Boy is barely in the top 10 probably despite the Kabayel L due to that Takam W & what I feel was a close unofficial W or close official L (depending on how you viewed it) over Whyte.

        And yea I could see Breazeale, Kownacki & Fury fighting for the bottom of the top ten spots.

        And as for Big Baby as I said I think he's in that 5ish range off of the same 2 W's that are Povetkin's best W's in recent years over Wach & Duhaupas + the Washington W.

        So putting those thoughts in a actual 1-10 ranking I think my HW top 10 would be:

        1)Joshua - lock at #1
        2)Wilder - lock at #2
        3)Whyte - lock at #3
        4)Ortiz - wouldn't argue very hard with 4-6 being in any order
        5)Big Baby - wouldn't argue with very hard 4-6 being in any order
        6)Povetkin - wouldn't argue very hard with 4-6 being in any order
        7)Fury - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
        8)Parker - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
        9)Kownacki - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order
        10)Breazeale - wouldn't argue very hard with 7-10 being in any order

        And I guess that'd leave Del Boy at 11, but I wouldn't fault anyone for having him in the bottom of the top 10.

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          #84
          Originally posted by _Rexy_
          nobody is worthy of The Joshua until they run the Hearn Gauntlet.


          Chisora
          Whyte
          Bellew
          BONUS ROUND
          Joshua
          Exactly! Those guys are comprised of his small little clique.

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            #85
            Maybe I just don't have Whyte in my top 3 because I don't have Parker in my top 10? lol

            I just wasn't wowed by the Whyte win over Parker. if the Ref doesn't rule that headbutt a KD, then it's a Majority Draw. if the Ref deducted a point for the 20 BS warnings, Parker wins.


            and once again, I don't even have Parker in my top 10. I had him losing to Ruiz, losing to Joshua...thought he was an impressive prospect that peaked super early and everyone thought he was better than he is.

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              #86
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              Whyte vs Pulev was set, even had a purse bid. Whyte pulled out because he didn't want to fight outside of the UK!
              Whyte has fought outside of the UK, Miller hasn't fought outside of the US.

              Not that I'm defending Whyte, I think he's a clown.

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                #87
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Exactly! Those guys are comprised of his small little clique.
                Miller is a Matchroom crony as well. Is he the BONUS ROUND?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  Maybe I just don't have Whyte in my top 3 because I don't have Parker in my top 10? lol

                  I just wasn't wowed by the Whyte win over Parker. if the Ref doesn't rule that headbutt a KD, then it's a Majority Draw. if the Ref deducted a point for the 20 BS warnings, Parker wins.


                  and once again, I don't even have Parker in my top 10. I had him losing to Ruiz, losing to Joshua...thought he was an impressive prospect that peaked super early and everyone thought he was better than he is.
                  100% agree with what you say about the Parker v Whyte fight.
                  I have Whyte at about 6th or 7th in my top 10, Parker just sc****s in at 10 because he took AJ the distance and a former Champ.

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                    #89
                    So no HW boxer can promote fights without mentioning Joshua Inn?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SeGoodland
                      Miller is a Matchroom crony as well. Is he the BONUS ROUND?
                      No pun intended, but Miller is treated like the red-headed step child by Eddie Hearn.

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