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  • D4thincarnation
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    #131
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Because of USADA at clerical levels .

    Why did all the the authorities clear Mayweather.

    Why did two of the richest men in the world with the most to gain being Manny and Arum, one a Harvard Lawyer do nothing at an official level if all this evidence you have actually means anything .

    They do nothing but you have all this proof, common sense tells us whats going on here is a chat room lol.

    Now answer what I have asked you or just admit to shot your mouth of with BS.

    Same reason why the cleared Cris Cyborg, why the let Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones dope for years, why the allowed Simone Biles to take PEDs


    Now answer the question.
    What was wrong with Floyd that he had to take this banned IV?

    Amazing how nobody knows

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      #132
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      If you had it at a hospital or during surgery then you would have to put in a TUE.
      https://www.usada.org/iv-infusions-explanatory-note/

      WHEN IS A TUE NOT REQUIRED FOR AN IV INFUSION?

      If the athlete has an acute medical condition where an IV line was essential for treatment in a hospital admission, surgical procedure, or clinical investigation.

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        #133
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        They are the leading experts. They are the ones Manny and Floyd voluntarily chose to determine if any IV use (which was 100% legal in Nevada for any reason) was for legitimate medical purpose. USADA says it was. There's no reason to believe otherwise. This "controversy" only exists because a corrupt journalist, hired by HBO, wrote a misleading and false hit piece to try to smear Floyd before his retirement fight.
        based on what? like i said, it's there words only. but since you brought that up, a lot of "ped expert" also came out and voice that what floyd did was very shady. now take that to court and see how that goes! lol! you have to show proof! you cant just say "yeah he was sick" and not have anything to back that statement up.

        what we do know is floyd was fine the week leading up the to fight. what we do know is that floyd took 750 mL of IV.

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        • D4thincarnation
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          #134
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          https://www.usada.org/iv-infusions-explanatory-note/

          WHEN IS A TUE NOT REQUIRED FOR AN IV INFUSION?

          If the athlete has an acute medical condition where an IV line was essential for treatment in a hospital admission, surgical procedure, or clinical investigation.
          In emergency circumstances, IVs may also be given by paramedical staff or physicians on the field of play, but an emergency TUE application is required as soon as reasonably possible after treatment has been received. Examples may include a semi- or unconscious athlete, an athlete who cannot tolerate oral fluids, or treatment of an acute injury.
          IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.
          Yes and then you get a retroactive TUE

          And in the bottom paragraph, it same IV and re-hydration services given at home are not hospital admissions and require an approved TUE in advance, which Floyd did not have.


          Floyd broke the doping rules, but somehow got away with it.

          What is your explanation?

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            #135
            Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
            based on what? like i said, it's there words only.
            It's the official anti-doping agency of the United States.

            TUEs are approved or rejected by a committee of leading doctors, who aren't told who the athlete is.

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              #136
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Yes and then you get a retroactive TUE

              And in the bottom paragraph, it same IV and re-hydration services given at home are not hospital admissions and require an approved TUE in advance, which Floyd did not have.


              Floyd broke the doping rules, but somehow got away with it.

              What is your explanation?
              That's why it's called a retroactive TUE. Having in home treatment requires TUE in advance, and if you don't have it, you need to apply for a retroactive TUE. Which is what he did. You're misreading the rules. The situations you listed don't require a TUE at all. Floyd's situation requires TUE, which he received.

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                #137
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                It's the official anti-doping agency of the United States.

                TUEs are approved or rejected by a committee of leading doctors, who aren't told who the athlete is.
                and we all know it can be corrupted. just because its the official anti doping of the US doesnt mean jack! show proof! it wont be hard since they have floyd's medical record right?

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  That's why it's called a retroactive TUE. Having in home treatment requires TUE in advance, and if you don't have it, you need to apply for a retroactive TUE. Which is what he did. You're misreading the rules. The situations you listed don't require a TUE at all. Floyd's situation requires TUE, which he received.

                  No, if you don't have it you have breached the doping standards and should be banned.
                  IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    No, if you don't have it you have breached the doping standards and should be banned.
                    You have no idea what you're talking about. A retroactive TUE is counted as a regular TUE. They're just stricter about the circumstances where you can receive them.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Same reason why the cleared Cris Cyborg, why the let Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones dope for years, why the allowed Simone Biles to take PEDs


                      Now answer the question.
                      What was wrong with Floyd that he had to take this banned IV?

                      Amazing how nobody knows
                      You go around in circles and answer nothing put to you because you dont have the answers. .

                      Floyd showed levels of dehydration thats why he was given IV.

                      I once took a Greyhound to the races the dog was excited and slightly dehydrated after the trip he was given IV Hartmans Solution iv fluids 500ml which is half a bag 4 hrs before the race.
                      That dog weighed 68lbs, he could have recieved up to 1500ml.

                      You dont know what your talking about, but then most haters on a witch hunt dont, they just see some things and other things are ignored because it squashes their agenda.

                      Tell me why Arum and Manny not pushing hard on this ? seeing as you have so much evidence why do they have no evidence that stands up legally, does that not tell you nothing is there to pursue.

                      Floyd was tested prior the IV, that means the IV is irrelevant to that test sample right ?

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