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  • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Irrelevant.
    We know Floyd did not have an advanced TUE, we know he was not at hospital or had surgery or a clinical investigation so he breached the standards set by WADA and USADA.

    He was allowed to fight with the outcome of the retroactive TUE still pending.

    Any rejection of that TUE and it makes a mockery of USADA

    Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about.




    That proves that you were wrong. You DON'T need a TUE when it is given in a hospital. And by WADA's rules, you may be granted a retroactive TUE. And yes, it can be for only dehydration.

    WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative.

    http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative...eather-iv-tue/

    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Any theories on why Floyd needed to take this banned IV infusion.

    Nobody in the world seems to know.
    You need his medical records. How about rhabdomyolysis? Can you disprove that or nah? His symptoms and the treatment seem to add up, don't you think?

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about.




      That proves that you were wrong. You DON'T need a TUE when it is given in a hospital. And by WADA's rules, you may be granted a retroactive TUE. And yes, it can be for only dehydration.






      You need his medical records. How about rhabdomyolysis? Can you disprove that or nah? His symptoms and the treatment seem to add up, don't you think?
      All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 100 mL (~6.8 tablespoons) per 12 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the hospital, during surgery, or during clinical investigations.

      Try and learn to read.

      https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...s-treatments#1

      No way Floyd would have had this

      And he would have been rushed to hospital if he did.

      In fight weak, you train down and really ease up, so no muscle strain.

      Nice try though.

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      • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 100 mL (~6.8 tablespoons) per 12 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the hospital, during surgery, or during clinical investigations.

        Try and learn to read.

        https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...s-treatments#1

        No way Floyd would have had this

        And he would have been rushed to hospital if he did.

        In fight weak, you train down and really ease up, so no muscle strain.

        Nice try though.
        Go back and read what that chart says. The fact that you can't understand that it's saying you DON'T need a TUE if it is in a hospital shows how simple you are

        You played yourself again. That's exactly what Bermane Stiverne was found to have had. And yes, he said it affected him BEFORE the fight.

        Former WBC heavyweight champion diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis

        LAS VEGAS -- Bermane Stiverne said he knew something wasn't right with his body on Saturday before he stepped into the ring at the MGM Grand Garden to defend his WBC heavyweight title against Deontay Wilder.

        https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...024914236.html

        So what were you saying again? Nice try, chump. You want to try again

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        • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Great find. Let's see what we have there:

          1. Affects athletes who work out heavily.
          (Mayweather said the issue could have been overtraining).
          2. Causes a decrease in urine output.
          (Mayweather could only give a partial urine sample upon USADA's arrival).
          3. Causes extremely dark urine.
          (Mayweather claimed his urine was extremely dark).
          4. A noted symptom is injury particularly to the shoulders.
          (Mayweather claims both of his shoulders were injured).
          5. Is treated with an infusion of intravenous fluid.
          (Mayweather was treated with IV fluid).
          6. Has been seen to affect athletes that do NOT lose tons of weight
          (Affected heavyweights Stiverne and Dos Santos.)


          Very interesting, don't you think? You said there are no viable "excuses." Do you care to disprove this?

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            Go back and read what that chart says. The fact that you can't understand that it's saying you DON'T need a TUE if it is in a hospital shows how simple you are

            You played yourself again. That's exactly what Bermane Stiverne was found to have had. And yes, he said it affected him BEFORE the fight.




            So what were you saying again? Nice try, chump. You want to try again

            Yes Floyd needed an advanced TUE and never had one.

            No reason for it to be administered.

            USADA and Floyd keeping quiet on the reason why he was given the IV infusion

            Either way, broke the rules, fight is null and void because Floyd was doping.

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            • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Yes Floyd needed an advanced TUE and never had one.
              First you claimed it had to be an emergency. Now try using your brain. If it had to be an emergency, how could a TUE be applied for in advance of the emergency


              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              USADA and Floyd keeping quiet on the reason why he was given the IV infusion
              By WADA's rules that existed before Mayweather was being tested by USADA, medical records are kept private. Just stop with your butthurt bullshlt.

              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Either way, broke the rules, fight is null and void because Floyd was doping.
              Last I checked, the official results weren't overturned. Just a few butthurt fools still crying about it. You got shut down at every turn. Just give up already.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Great find. Let's see what we have there:

                1. Affects athletes who work out heavily.
                (Mayweather said the issue could have been overtraining).
                2. Causes a decrease in urine output.
                (Mayweather could only give a partial urine sample upon USADA's arrival).
                3. Causes extremely dark urine.
                (Mayweather claimed his urine was extremely dark).
                4. A noted symptom is injury particularly to the shoulders.
                (Mayweather claims both of his shoulders were injured).
                5. Is treated with an infusion of intravenous fluid.
                (Mayweather was treated with IV fluid).
                6. Has been seen to affect athletes that do NOT lose tons of weight
                (Affected heavyweights Stiverne and Dos Santos.)


                Very interesting, don't you think? You said there are no viable "excuses." Do you care to disprove this?
                1) Like I said, in the week leading up to the fight, fighters train down

                And it's Kidney damage, an IV is not going to make you right as rain and ready to fight.

                Try again.

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                • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  1) Like I said, in the week leading up to the fight, fighters train down

                  And it's Kidney damage, an IV is not going to make you right as rain and ready to fight.

                  Try again.
                  LMAO. So explain Stiverne being diagnosed with it and finishing a 12 round fight

                  Oh, and being treated by....IV FLUID.


                  By the way, you are still showing that you can't read. It's about muscle injury, which can lead to it affecting the kidneys. You really have a hard time comprehending what you read.

                  Give up, sucka.
                  Last edited by travestyny; 10-03-2018, 08:33 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    LMAO. So explain Stiverne being diagnosed with it and finishing a 12 round fight


                    Give up, sucka.
                    He was severely dehydrated and was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis.
                    https://www.***************.com/inde...yolysis.59267/


                    Are you claiming Floyd was severely dehydrated?

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                    • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      https://www.***************.com/inde...yolysis.59267/


                      Are you claiming Floyd was severely dehydrated?
                      I'm not claiming anything. YOU are claiming that he couldn't have had that with no information fool.

                      If he had symptoms of rhabdomyolysis, the right thing to do would be to treat him for it, which would be done with an IV. The most important concern is the health of the athlete. Stiverne should have been treated with an IV BEFORE entering the ring. This is obvious. If the DCO after talking to USADA decided that there was no harm in treating him for possible rhabdomyolysis being that he was there to watch everything, took a sample before the IV, took a sample after the IV, tested the sample for dilution, the lab tested the sample for dilution, TUE applied for, independent group of doctors approves of the anonymous application....


                      Sorry, your "proof" has failed. Try again when you can make some sense of your conspiracy theory. Thanks.

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