Is Muhammad Ali over-rated?

[:Bobby:]

Mike Tyson Doesnt Stand A Chance Againts Ali


Ali Is Not Overrated

Nice post. Although we disagree with each other, we can respectfully treat each other, which is nice.

I was asking a question and asking for your views on a particular matter, no need to insult me - you should know you only insult yourselves with that kind of behavior.

[IchiBonDj]

Without a doubt Ali contributed to the sport of boxing and many things outside of boxing more then any other fighter ever. Add on top his tremendous boxing skills and you can definitly make that argument. But if you look at it strickly on boxing skills and accomplishments in the ring then i'd have to go with Ray Robinson.

[IchiBonDj]

I guess I didnt really answer the question though. Is Ali over-rated? As a Person, No. As a fighter, maybe a little.

[Franko]

No he was past his best because he neglected training as he used to, simple as that. Tyson beats Douglas nine times out of ten IMO and i've said before that i feel Tyson at his best is capable of beating any heavyweight in boxing history. On the original subject, anyone who even questions whether Ali is overrated or not doesn't have much of clue what they're talking about. It's a ridiculous question that doesn't even deserve an answer.

Let Tyson try to get by Buster Douglas before we talk about whether or not he could beat Muhammed Ali.

Oh wait, here it comes, but he didn't have Kevin Rooney in his corner!!!! He would have went his entire career undefeated if he'd kept Kevin Rooney!!!! He was past his prime because he fired Rooney!!!!

[IchiBonDj]

I think its a legit question. In the mainstream media, Ali is always talked about as the greatest boxer of all time. The General public doesnt know or even care much about boxing, but if you ask the average person who the greatest boxer of all time is, its almost a sure bet Ali will be hailed as the greatest. Its because thats all they know, its as if they're conditioned to think Ali was the greatest. Hell i'll bet people who have never even seen a full Ali fight from start to finish will even say he was the greatest, so ya maybe a little over-rated.

RAY ROBINSON P4P GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME

[chito]

to me, ali is not overrated but he's not the greatest boxer of all time, maybe just one of the greatest! he has flaws like any other fighters and tried to cover that up w/ his charm in the ring, w/ that charm, many fans adored him & and potrayed him to be a hero - indestructible! well, who who have not loved him for that? i guess, only those who hate him so much (for a reason i don't know) thinks he's overrated!

[Southpaw Stinger]

RAY ROBINSON P4P GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME

We're not talking P4P though. We're talking overall greatness which really only a heavyweight can be.

[Obdeboondocks]

on the matter of ali being overrated, i have one question: have you seen another heavy to win the title three times? if the government didnt take away his belt the first time i honestly dont see anyone beating him until frazier in the 70's. but you can look at it from a different perspective as well. ali was there when the heavy weight title was the most valued belt (hw's peak years i think) producing the best fighters of the world. that late 60's through early eighties produced one of the finest hw's, unlike the current times (greatest contender is briggs) or tyson's time, maybe even rivaling louis' time of great hws. i didnt even want to mention tyson because his prime wouldn't have the skill to touch ali. tyson might have the audacity or those ferociously accurate right hooks but anyone that could hold off joe frazier two times out of three or outthwart a giant of a foreman, or contend with a prime norton who himself is outprimed doesn't need to be compared to mike.

[butterfly1964]

What kind of ****** question is that? Ali is in no way, shape or form overrated. P4P I've never seen a boxer better than Ali. A 210lb man moving like a 135lb man. Imagine PBF moving like a junior flyweight, and that's how fast ali was. He made great fighters look ordinary. Look at the liston, williams, 2nd frazier, quarry, patterson, and foreman fights. They looked like 2nd tier fighters compared to Ali. Fastest hands ever by a hw. No one will ever be that big, fast, and skilled at the same time again. He also was freakishly strong. Watch the liston, bonavena, frazier, etc fights. They were very strong guys and ALi manhandled them in the clinches like they were nothing. Head and shoulders above the rest, and dominated the best era in boxing history. No other fighter comes close.

[boski]

Butterfly you are 100% correct.Now get ready for the Tyson jock sniffers to come out!