As I've said before, he seems to be the best heavyweight ever, NOT P4P. But he is overrated in the sense that people act as if he was an INDESTRUCTIBLE FORCE, like he was a GOD of some sort, and NOBODY past present or future could EVER beat a prime ALI. But I still think he was probably the best HW. Its a matter of magnitude I guess.
Is Muhammad Ali over-rated?
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I think when people say Ali is the greatest of all time, they strictly mean in the heavyweight division. I've never seen or heard anyone say Ali is p4p the best ever.Comment
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If Buster Douglas can beat the **** out of an out of shape and unmotivated prime Tyson, then considering how much better Ali was in all aspects compared to Buster accept maybe power, Ali would destroy Tyson on his best night.Comment
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When did I ever say Ali was the number 1 p4p fighter of all time?Originally posted by BigSlickI've watched and read many of SRR fights. You can't have Ali number 1 P4P because as a heavyweight, it is EXTREMELY hard to be rated at the very top simply because on a law of averages, there are a higher number of greater fighters with greater skillsets at the lower weights. I don't think you know what P4P means. SRR fought great competition in more then 1 weightclass building up that ranking. I never discredited Ali's greatness but you can't sit here and honestly say he was the best P4P. You would be dishonoring great fighters by doing so. Monzon, Duran, Armstrong, Gebb, Pep, Sanchez, there are great many more I would rate above Ali on the P4P list.
And Ali at number 1 for heavyweight fighters is not even an immortal lock. Many people will rate Joe Louis higher then Ali. Personally I think Ali possed more skills and was so much smoother add to that a great lecgacy of top fights I would give him the nod over Louis.
It just makes me angry when people say things without even thinking of what they said.

I didnt, and wouldnt.
Hes not.
Read my posts before you go on annoying, lecturing tirade's please.Comment
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And how does this make him not over-rated when he is considered the very best by many? You even prove my point without knowing it.Originally posted by boskiARE YOU OUT OF YOUR ****ING MIND??? Why would you even start a thread so ****ing ignorant? Ali was one of the greatest fighters of all time. Have you ever watched a fight in your entire life? ****ing Jerkoff!
My intention with this thread was not to take anything away from Ali or say Tyson was so much better than him. It's just that I feel no matter how good a fighter is you will always say Ali was way better.Comment
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This thread needs too be closed what a ****** question.. obviously you havent seen his fights... he'd be too quick for tysonComment
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the ali that fought sonny liston would beat any fighter that ever lived ali hit alot harder then everybody thinks. ali could fight with his hands up or down and if he didnt get parkinsons he couldve fought into his 40s just like holmes at one time he said he would be the greatest till he was 50. i just recently started apreciating ali, the more i learn about styles the more i belive he was the greatest, his hardest fight in his prime would be a prime larry holmesComment
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