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  • #51
    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
    ESPN is free with my Verizon subscription
    No it’s not. Verizon pays $9 per subscriber to Espn for the channel. That is why Espn makes way more than showtime and has a way bigger budget with sports like nfl nba mlb boxing mma etc

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    • #52
      Originally posted by killakali View Post
      No it’s not. Verizon pays $9 per subscriber to Espn for the channel. That is why Espn makes way more than showtime and has a way bigger budget with sports like nfl nba mlb boxing mma etc
      Dude it is part of basic cable package it’s not a add on like showtime lol

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      • #53
        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
        Dude it is part of basic cable package it’s not a add on like showtime lol
        U don’t get it lol. U think Verizon gets ESPN free? Lol. They pay espn for the right to sell the channel in your cable package lol.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          U don’t get it lol. U think Verizon gets ESPN free? Lol. They pay espn for the right to sell the channel in your cable package lol.
          And you don’t get it.... it’s a big difference between premium channel and a channel like ESPN which is why it’s in almost 90mil homes

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          • #55
            September 27, 2018:

            For Arum and Top Rank, working with Alvarez obviously would be much more complicated than partnering with Golovkin. Beyond Alvarez’s superstar status, Arum has a contentious relationship with Oscar De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter and Top Rank’s franchise fighter for most of De La Hoya’s career.

            “Todd will be talking to Tom Loeffler about the possibilities,” Arum said. “And as far as Canelo is concerned, he’s under contract to Golden Boy and they’re experienced enough, I assume, to make their own deal. So if they came to us and wanted to know what ESPN had to offer, we would tell them. But that’s up to Golden Boy.

            “As far Canelo goes, we’d wait for Oscar to approach us."

            February 24, 2011:

            So Oscar De La Hoya exited the ring for a career in promotions and created Golden Boy which has taken off. The promotional company represents a high percentage of the best fighters in the world and they’re responsible for putting on some of the best events we watch.

            Before Golden Boy existed, Bob Arum and Don King used to be the only real competition when it came to promoting top fighters. Now, De La Hoya’s gang seems to scoop them up. Given that background you know that anything rival promoter Bob Arum says about Golden Boy comes out of bitterness and anger. So take the following quote served up to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel lightly with a chuckle.

            “[Golden Boy has] no background in boxing,” Arum told the paper. “They rely on Oscar, who’s a dummy. Oscar is one of the ******est guys I’ve ever met. I’m just saying what it is. The guy is really not smart. Forget just ‘not smart.’ He’s not just even average.”

            Like I said, it’s complete bitterness from Arum, but the smack was so strong we had to share. Keep in mind that Arum will say just about anything to make himself and his people look good.

            http://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/b...ever-met/55075

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            • #56
              Arum is right that DLH is a dummy

              He could have walked away with $100 million for Golden Boy, and instead he's driving it into the ground. It's not even profitable at this point and when they lose Canelo, it'll be worthless.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
                GGG to showtime is def not happening, WAY TO MUCH SMOKE on that network for GGG to join that stable, he literally would get retired by all the talent at 154/160.

                ESPN is the far better choice for him, less talent, he can choose his opponents, he will make money, raise his profile, and add another 2 to 3 years onto his career.

                Arum has a point here, its the perfect home for a washed up GGG.

                Canelo meanwhile is the kingpin, he should now can roam free, Showtime/PBC would offer him the biggest possible fights, nobody else is close, and the Charlo mandatory at 160 would be the heck of the way to start the contract.

                He could even fight Spence at a catchweight, and do a million buys easy.
                Give some names of opponents who would retire him?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by TouchyAndalou View Post
                  Canelo is the biggest star in boxing and the surest way to drive subscriptions. If DAZN has a serious chance of signing him, there's no way they'll restrict themselves to a 20M cap.
                  Then the other guys won't be being paid their agreed contracts or DAZN is gonna do far less than the weekly shows they have scheduled. DAZN also won't be able to sign any other large name because the budget would be all for Canelo. PPV existed for a reason when it came to these fighters who demand higher purses

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                    And you don’t get it.... it’s a big difference between premium channel and a channel like ESPN which is why it’s in almost 90mil homes
                    the original question was who had more money and ESPN has WAAAY more money than Showtime. The difference is with Showtime you buy the channel individually while ESPN is part of a package and the cable and satellite providers buy ESPN in the 10s of millions while Showtime is paid for by the user and doesn't have but 25% of the reach. That is why ESPN has way more money and has advertising revenue

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
                      Then the other guys won't be being paid their agreed contracts or DAZN is gonna do far less than the weekly shows they have scheduled. DAZN also won't be able to sign any other large name because the budget would be all for Canelo. PPV existed for a reason when it came to these fighters who demand higher purses
                      You're working under the assumption that the 1 billion over 8 years is a hard budget with no wiggle room. Hearn has previously intimated that there may potentially be more money available depending on the fighter/fights. If that's the case (and I don't see why it wouldn't be, given DAZN is bankrolled by Access which owns Warner Music and a stake in Spotify and they have been very aggressive in positioning themselves in all the markets they've entered before the US) then who better to spend that money on than the biggest star in boxing? They simply can't let ESPN or especially Showtime sign Canelo without a fight.

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