How did Fury suddenly become champion?

[New England]

Well, sure. Other people became champion when he retired and new lineages were created.

And they could probably best him easy if he came back to fight today.

But his lineage remains what it is.

other lineages


you're staring to spin in circles for me! you gonna bark and beg for food, next?

[N/A]

oh yeah, you can take all the f#cking gear in the world, has no bearing on you becoming champion of the world.

Lineal is the man who beat the man. Fury beat Klitschko. So he's the lineal champion. Had Fury failed a test in the Klitschko fight and the official result was changed to a no decision, then he wouldn't be lineal champion. Pretty simple.

[joseph5620]

I seem to remember that he was a fat useless gypsy, who stunk the place out vs Klitschko and who has no chance of beating anyone good.

All of a sudden he’s the “lineal champ” with the best win of all the heavyweights and moves like Ali.

What changed?

He was the lineal champ when he beat Klitschko.. That's a fact. Not that I care because I think very little of the "lineal" thing. He beat Klitschko two years before Joshua did which makes his win more impressive. That's also a fact.



Who said he moves like Ali? Find all of the post that have made this claim. Apparently you've seen a lot of them so let's see them.

[New England]

Lineal is the man who beat the man. Fury beat Klitschko. So he's the lineal champion. Had Fury failed a test in the Klitschko fight and the official result was changed to a no decision, then he wouldn't be lineal champion. Pretty simple.

again, you have admitted to being three people with an agenda and nobody takes you seriously


not only was he fighting when he should have been suspended, he was suspended again and would have lost his license to box again when he tested positive for *******.


you seem to think that you can test positive for an anabolic steroid and a recreational drug [that also helps you lose a hell of a lot of weight...] continue to be the lineal HW champion of the world through a suspension in which you can't defend your title and nobody who actually fights can become champion. which is incredibly naive and ******. are all three of your personalities that naive and ******? and i know why, because you have a gigantic agenda perhaps even to the point of being on somebody's payroll

[ShoulderRoll]

other lineages


you're staring to spin in circles for me! you gonna bark and beg for food, next?

Look, whether or not your pea brain can understand lineages the fact remains that it was Fury who ended the Klitschko era. He beat him first before Joshua did.

For that a win over him would still be very meaningful for Wilder.

[j0zef]

It's marketing. He was the lineal champ but squandered that to piss by retiring multiple times and not fighting anyone with a pulse in over 3 years.

I don't care how they market it, and I'm sure once Wilder knocks Fury out he'll start saying he's the lineal champ. That's all BS. The only way to reestablish the lineage is for Joshua and Wilder to get in the ring and settle it like men. Until that happens, that lineage will remain broken.

[Robbie Barrett]

Lineal is the man who beat the man. Fury beat Klitschko. So he's the lineal champion. Had Fury failed a test in the Klitschko fight and the official result was changed to a no decision, then he wouldn't be lineal champion. Pretty simple.

He isn't lineal. Only Wilder/Fury fans are claiming he is.

Are you the Promoter, WBC guy or the Toilet Cleaner?

[Tom Cruise]

"lineal has no rules"


then your iudea of lineage f#cking stinks .

tyson fury was
A: suspended for an anabolic steroid
b: inactive for 2.5 years and didn't fight anybody in the top 50 for ~3 years.
c: 350 lbs


lineage is just about common sense. it's the guy who beat the guy within reason. fury vacated for all intents and purposes. either voluntarily or otherwise, his suspension for me is the big one, inactivity and 350 lbs a close second.

joshyua's clearly the best HW right now, wilder is clearly #2, one johsua and wilder ifht lineage will be reestablished.

The problem is that your ‘within reason’ probably doesn’t match up with other people’s. Lots of people still class Fury as Lineal champion. Stevenson is still Lineal at LHW. Canelo was before he beat GG and he hadn’t even beaten a proper MW yet

That’s all I’m saying. Being lineal doesn’t mean you are the man, doesn’t mean you would have been the singular champ like they had back in the day, because the lineal champ doesn’t have to fight top ranked contenders or do anything really other than not lose and not retire. The man at LHW until he retired was quite clearly Ward. Before that it was Kovalev. Stevenson is Lineal but he isn’t the champ. Canelo just won the MW title off GG a few weeks ago. Before that GG was clearly the man, but Canelo was lineal.

Lineal is very overrated title. Really means squat unless it’s defended against good competition.

[Robbie Barrett]

The problem is that your ‘within reason’ probably doesn’t match up with other people’s. Lots of people still class Fury as Lineal champion. Stevenson is still Lineal at LHW. Canelo was before he beat GG and he hadn’t even beaten a proper MW yet

That’s all I’m saying. Being lineal doesn’t mean you are the man, doesn’t mean you would have been the singular champ like they had back in the day, because the lineal champ doesn’t have to fight top ranked contenders or do anything really other than not lose and not retire. The man at LHW until he retired was quite clearly Ward. Before that it was Kovalev. Stevenson is Lineal but he isn’t the champ. Canelo just won the MW title off GG a few weeks ago. Before that GG was clearly the man, but Canelo was lineal.

Lineal is very overrated title. Really means squat unless it’s defended against good competition.

Pretty sure Fury said he retired and nobody classed Canelo lineal when he got suspended. No major site views Fury as lineal, because he isn't.

[Jewish-Reptile]

again, you have admitted to being three people with an agenda and nobody takes you seriously


not only was he fighting when he should have been suspended, he was suspended again and would have lost his license to box again when he tested positive for *******.


you seem to think that you can test positive for an anabolic steroid and a recreational drug [that also helps you lose a hell of a lot of weight...] continue to be the lineal HW champion of the world through a suspension in which you can't defend your title and nobody who actually fights can become champion. which is incredibly naive and ******. are all three of your personalities that naive and ******? and i know why, because you have a gigantic agenda perhaps even to the point of being on somebody's payroll

You’re wasting your time, it’s lost on them. Seriously.