How does Ortiz do against Ali, marciano, lewis, foreman.

[GhostofDempsey]

Maybe he lasts 4 rounds. Wilder and AJ don't see the final bell against any of the ATG HWs either.

[Madison Boxing]

One thing is for sure, Luis Ortiz would kick Alexander Povetkin's ass

Well they've fought once in the amateurs and povetkin dropped him in 30 seconds and the fight got stopped cause povetkin was so far ahead.

[champion4ever]

Well they've fought once in the amateurs and povetkin dropped him in 30 seconds and the fight got stopped cause povetkin was so far ahead.

That was then and this now. Right now Luis Ortiz would kick the living dog shit out of this 40 year old, non juiced, shot, washed up and older version of Alexander Sasha Povetkin. Not only Ortiz is the naturally bigger and stronger of the two but he is also the more fundamentally sound, with a better chin, defense, reflexes, stamina and balance.

[Legendary Hater]

This thread starter is a God Damned anti-American IDIOT....no easier way to say it...

[Cutthroat]

Allen is obviously going to be more durable than the iron jawed Zelko? Did you not see some of the bombs Lennox Landed? Ortiz didn't generate that kind of power. To think so shows you're mentally ill. But you're American, most of you are ****ing weirdos who live in fantasy land.

You know damn well if an opponent walked through Wilder's punches like that you'd be like "Look he doesn't even hit hard, exposed"

When a 215lb HW like Mavrovic can walk through your punches like that, your power is suspect. European heavies weren't better in the 90's either so throw that excuse out the window. Mavrovic isn't better than the likes of the Christian Hammers or Charr's of this era, probably even worse, still capable of rocking Lewis and going 27-1 in the 90's.

Lewis had his power walked through plenty of times including against Levi Billups, Tucker, Holyfield 2x, Tua, Mercer, and McCall. Even Corrie Sanders managed to put Vitali on bambi legs as early as round 1 unlike Lewis who threw everything he had at him.

[Marchegiano]

Marciano would clobber these bums

[Larry the boss]

Well they've fought once in the amateurs and povetkin dropped him in 30 seconds and the fight got stopped cause povetkin was so far ahead.

link????????????

[Madison Boxing]

link????????????

[Larry the boss]

That is not proof, its a random dude who made a video with 0 proof to back it up,no footage nothing

[Mr Objecitivity]

Allen is obviously going to be more durable than the iron jawed Zelko? Did you not see some of the bombs Lennox Landed? Ortiz didn't generate that kind of power. To think so shows you're mentally ill. But you're American, most of you are ****ing weirdos who live in fantasy land.

You know damn well if an opponent walked through Wilder's punches like that you'd be like "Look he doesn't even hit hard, exposed"

When a 215lb HW like Mavrovic can walk through your punches like that, your power is suspect. European heavies weren't better in the 90's either so throw that excuse out the window. Mavrovic isn't better than the likes of the Christian Hammers or Charr's of this era, probably even worse, still capable of rocking Lewis and going 27-1 in the 90's.

Lewis had his power walked through plenty of times including against Levi Billups, Tucker, Holyfield 2x, Tua, Mercer, and McCall. Even Corrie Sanders managed to put Vitali on bambi legs as early as round 1 unlike Lewis who threw everything he had at him.

Sid-Knee, this is the PERFECT opportunity to ask Cutthroat as to why Johann Duhaupas (of all people) was able to WALK RIGHT THROUGH multiple of Deontay Wilder's FULLY loaded up, maximum powered punches that landed flush plenty of times on Johan Duhaupas's body /face for multiple rounds, without suffering a single knockdown against this MYTHICAL punching power of Deontay Wilder. Duhaupas LITERALLY ate all of Wilder's career high number of landed power punches like a candy, nearly 1000 punches in total, for 11 rounds, without suffering a single knockdown.

Yet, despite this 'MYTHICAL' one punch power of Wilder, Wilder ONLY at most managed to inflict MINOR bleeding from Duhaupas's face. That's the most damage he was able to inflict, with nearly 1000 landed punches.

Meanwhile, Duhaupas only landed half the number of punches Wilder landed, and managed to actually give Wilder far more damage than vice versa by causing a black eye on Wilder, almost shutting Wilder's eye.

If anything, that fight proved Duhaupas is a far superior puncher in terms of one power than Deontay Wilder. Duhaupas with fewer punches inflicted more damage on Wilder, than the amount of damage Wilder inflicted on Duhaupas with double the number of landed punches.

Wilder looked TOTALLY feather fisted, as if he had the power of a little sissy, when Duhaupas WALKED RIGHT THROUGH, let that sink, WALKED RIGHT THROUGH WIlder's power punches for 11 rounds without even suffering a single knockdown. It wasn't like Duhaupas was on the back foot and in survival mode, looking to only neutralize Wilder. NO! HE was on the front foot, taking all of Wilder's punches without suffering a single knockdown.

And we're talking about Duhaupas, a guy who was DROPPED MASSIVELY by one punch from a cruiser weight. A cruiser weight dropped Duhaupas with a single punch. And Wilder couldn't drop this Duhaupas with nearly 1000 landed flush power punches. That should REALLY put into perspective JUST how SEVERELY lacking Wilder's punching power is. Looked almost nonexistent in that fight.