Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Canelo's Speed & Chin Were Key, Golovkin Got Tired

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  • PunchyPotorff
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    #41
    Originally posted by Junbengreat
    What’s not being mentioned is Canelos vicious body punches. It had ggg huffing and puffing by round 3. That was the difference maker.
    Yep. Amazing body work by Canelo. And only around SEVEN body shots from GGG. (8 in the first fight) And he wonders why he lost.

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      #42
      Originally posted by A.K
      Canelo has a hell of a chin but cause he survived doesn’t mean he should of got the nod. I don’t know where this Golovkin got tired mess is coming from the man was clearly dominating the last 4 rounds up until the last minute of the fight.
      You didn't see him gasping for air in the mid rounds?

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      • PunchyPotorff
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        #43
        Originally posted by sterilizer
        While most worldwide commentators --not only in the US and UK-- EVEN IN MEXICO saw the fight end at 116-112 or 8-4 in favor of GGG, there's suddenly so many "fair weather fans" of Canelo on here, probably Americans who are very, very happy for the fact that Hopkins' record wasn't shattered, that are suddenly claiming that Canelo is a great fighter, that he did better than GGG, that his punches were more powerful and meaningful, nothing of which is true.

        The effective one, the one landing more powerful punches, specially the jab and lots and lots of power punches to the face, was GGG, and he also connected a truckload of harsh uppercuts. And he was the only one who hurt the opponent, Canelo never hurt him, made him lose balance or stun him, but GGG clearly rocked Canelo real hard, stunned him and almost knocked him down in one of the last rounds, I think it was the 10th or 11th. Everybody saw that.

        Yes, Canelo deserves a statue or a monument for fighting THE FIRST TIME IN HIS WHOLE CAREER 100% like a man, like a true Mexican, going forward all the time, being the aggressor --until he gassed out as it was to be expected in the last four rounds or so-- and making GGG backpedal, which is a thing that has never been seen until yesterday. Kudos to that. But being semi-suicidal, marching forward in an aggressive manner and MISSING LOTS AND LOTS OF PUNCHES OR CONNECTING THEM TO THE ARMS OF THE OPPONENT while the opponent was clearly the effective one and the one landing the way harder punches, DOESN'T WIN FIGHTS.

        It's like Margarito going after Pacquiao all fight long, putting up pressure and still getting really beat up. Of course that wasn't the case this time, it was truly a competitive fight but by no means did Canelo exert EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION the whole fight. He got countered and punched real hard countless of times. He showed he is a true man and has an incredible will an chin, but THAT'S IT. That doesn't make him the winner.

        The judges were set to give Canelo the win in a very, very tight fashion like they did, because the mandate was: protect the record of Hopkins at all costs. But make it look credible, make it a very tight decision.

        Yet people who SAW THE WHOLE FIGHT saw reality. I'd call it a robbery because GGG was robbed of a record he truly deserved over Hopkins and he was also robbed of all his belts. Not because it was any crazy scoring, because the fight was very close, but still, most unbiased commentators and experts saw it 8-4 GGG and they saw it like that for a reason: because that's what really happened. I think yesterday was a sad day for boxing. It proved that the judges have always been a sold-out bunch, specially when fights are multi-millionaire events in Vegas. Sad but true.
        Truncate can be your friend.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic
          You dumbasses need to stop giving the credit for waiting until a fighter gets old to a few body punches. GGG has been declining for years and he was huffing and puffing badly by the 5th round against Willie Monroe Jr too, where you could see he was already declining. That's part of GGG "letting" Monroe hit him was that he was tired enough where he decided letting Monroe unload a few punches on his face was worth taking a little breather. You guys keep wanting to overhype fighters you like by giving them all this credit for a few punches they landed within a fight most people did not even think they won. You did the same thing with Kovalev-Ward before your opinion got completely exposed when it came out that Kovalev had been partying and drinking for awhile and his stamina was complete ****. The same exact thing happened to him vs Mikhalkin and Alvarez even after he fought Ward, and to a large extent vs Chilemba before he fought Ward as well.

          All these guys are doing are waiting until a fighter gets old and his stamina goes in the toilet, then claiming their body punches are what tired him out when really, GGG has so much muscle around his midsection, he can take a great body shot. That wasn't the issue. The issue was at his age, he gasses out quickly.
          Originally posted by BigStomps
          Damn you a straight hater! You'll never give Canelo any credit for anything. You're a fool!
          You think you know it all but you really don't! Everyone on here can tell you're a clown!
          So just go away cause nobody cares what you got to say!
          Rare to see so much hate against a fighter. Canelo won, but haters lose their minds. Only explanation I have is they must've all lost some stiff bets on the fight.

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          • A.K
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            #45
            Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
            You didn't see him gasping for air in the mid rounds?
            Both of them were cause they’re human boxing is The biggest stamina testing sport there is. Try sprinting 3 minutes straight 12 times while getting hit.. you not gonna be gasping bruh?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Luilun
              So if Canelo can out box GGG do think Mayweather would have boxed GGG ears off when they said they would fight Mayweather at 155 ?
              I do although it would've been very ugly with pot shotting and holding

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                #47
                Originally posted by Luilun
                So if Canelo can out box GGG do think Mayweather would have boxed GGG ears off when they said they would fight Mayweather at 155 ?
                Mayweather would get stopped ny this version of ggg and Canelo. Floyd is gonna lose in the pacquio rematch

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                • Akutalee
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                  #48
                  Well beaten no stories

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                  • Mindgames
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by markther
                    Yup and in his wins against HOF’er Trinidad at 36, against HOF’er William Joppy at 38, Oscar De La Hoya at 39, Tarver at 41, Winky Wright at 42, Pavlik at 43, Pascal at 46, Tavoris Cloud & Karo Murat at 48.

                    And for the record, Jermain Taylor and Hopkins were about the same size, in the same division at Middleweight. Hopkins was 6-1 and Taylor was just an inch shorter at 5-11. Please brush up on your boxing knowledge. Thanks!
                    Not sure what your on about really. Hopkins would likely not have lost to Taylor earlier in hes career, but he had, by hes own admission, had to change hes style because he'd slowed down.After Taylor he moved up in weight, no more fast busy middles with blazing speed like Taylor. Hes sucess was found in higher divisions against slower light heavies, like Tarver, who was getting on abit himself. Styles make fights. Older fighters have trouble at the lower divisions where speed and workrate rule. I wasnt saying Taylor was smaller than Hopkins, but that hes was smaller than the guys Hopkins did well against late on in hes career when he had to be more economical and fight at a slower pace. I guess you didnt comprehend hey? ��.. Oh yeah, did you just call Joppy a hall of famer? Dont embarrass yourself like that ��

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MrClutch85
                      Mayweather is great at taking away and countering the jab that's not his weakness
                      He had alot of trouble with Oscars jab, its the one shot that people have sucess with consistently. Cotto did too. Golovkin has a busier more powerful jab than either. I think je could do actual damage with that shot against a man so much smaller.

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