Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Canelo's Speed & Chin Were Key, Golovkin Got Tired

[Mindgames]

Mayweather may have been too small and without the power needed to beat GGG, however I totally disagree with see your comment that Mayweather's jab was his weakness. He had a fantastic jab, more intelligent and varied than GGG's and much faster. Obviously without the same power, but he controlled loads of fights with his jab, including Canelo and Pacquiao.

No, i dont think there was anything wrong with Mayweathers jab, just that the jab is the shot that can be landed consistently on Floyd as Oscar and Cotto showed. Being that the jab is Golovkins best weapon and an actual damging punch, that i think would really hurt someone so much smaller in Floyd.

[HURTFEELINGS]

Ggg lost plain & simple,you don't win championship fights by getting outlanded in power shots 143 to 116,& body shots by 54 to 6. And what happened to all that b s you were talking before the fight about how "running don't win fights",Canelo whooped triple L from pillar to post & showed just Like Ward & Kovalev he can beat him going Backwards or forwards,& today triple L disgraced his own so called "Mexican style" & adopted a supposedly "slick brotha runner style" by being much more defensive minded than opponent & by landing only nothing but weak jabs the whole fight.

I AGREE

[markther]

Not sure what your on about really. Hopkins would likely not have lost to Taylor earlier in hes career, but he had, by hes own admission, had to change hes style because he'd slowed down.After Taylor he moved up in weight, no more fast busy middles with blazing speed like Taylor. Hes sucess was found in higher divisions against slower light heavies, like Tarver, who was getting on abit himself. Styles make fights. Older fighters have trouble at the lower divisions where speed and workrate rule. I wasnt saying Taylor was smaller than Hopkins, but that hes was smaller than the guys Hopkins did well against late on in hes career when he had to be more economical and fight at a slower pace. I guess you didnt comprehend hey? ��.. Oh yeah, did you just call Joppy a hall of famer? Dont embarrass yourself like that ��

I comprehended very well what you “orginially” said in your “initial,” post.

“Age definitely plays a part, as it did in Bhops two losses to Taylor. Them smaller quicker guys are a problem.”

My point WAS age did not play a part in Hopkins moving up. And Hopkins never changed his style, not sure where you heard that from. He never changed his defensive approach. He became more efficient if anything with his volume of punches, making sure he could preserve as much conditioning as possible. That had nothing to do with his perceived lost of quickness at middleweight. And Taylor only beat Hopkins to the punch in those fights because Hopkins was more reluctant to take calculated risks with the fear of being countered by a big shot. Much like GGG did against Canelo in the rematch but to a lesser extent than what Hopkins did against Taylor.

And Hopkins was still a elite fighter from 39 to 49 years old by the admission of a lot of “boxing experts.” He simply moved up because there were more lucrative fights for his career that he wanted to maximize as he was getting older. And he moved up for his legacy and to grab titles in other divisions. Do you know who was actually left in the middleweight division back in 2005 after he lost to Taylor? There was only Winky Wright, Howard Eastman, and Felix Sturm, Arthur Abraham, & Kelly Pavlik. He already beat Eastman and Abraham moved up to Super Middleweight. You would know what Hopkins actually did IF you really knew anything about his career. Hopkins started chasing money, legacy, and titles, more so money. He moved up after Taylor and fought Tarver for the Light Heavyweight belt. Then Winky Wright moved up to challenge Hopkins at a catch weight of 170 lbs, no belts were at stake. Then calzaghe moved up to challenge Hopkins for his “Ring” Light Heavyweight belt, not a sanctioning title fight. Then Pavlik, a middleweight, moved up to challenge Hopkins and no belts were at stake. Then later on, Hopkins fought a rematch with Roy for money purposes. Then he went up and eventually won the Light Heabyweight title again from Pascal, lost it to Dawson, won it again from Cloud, then lost it again to Kovalev. None of those fights had nothing, zero to do with Hopkins taking those fights because he wanted to avoid quicker middleweights as YOU said. That’s ignorant and ******. There were NO middleweights left for him to fight. And mentioning Joppy as a HOF’er was simply a typo. He has too many losses and not enough wins against great or other HOF’ers. I would never say or think that. That was a typo.

[Mindgames]

I comprehended very well what you “orginially” said in your “initial,” post.

“Age definitely plays a part, as it did in Bhops two losses to Taylor. Them smaller quicker guys are a problem.”

My point WAS age did not play a part in Hopkins moving up. And Hopkins never changed his style, not sure where you heard that from. He never changed his defensive approach. He became more efficient if anything with his volume of punches, making sure he could preserve as much conditioning as possible. That had nothing to do with his perceived lost of quickness at middleweight. And Taylor only beat Hopkins to the punch in those fights because Hopkins was more reluctant to take calculated risks with the fear of being countered by a big shot. Much like GGG did against Canelo in the rematch but to a lesser extent than what Hopkins did against Taylor.

And Hopkins was still a elite fighter from 39 to 49 years old by the admission of a lot of “boxing experts.” He simply moved up because there were more lucrative fights for his career that he wanted to maximize as he was getting older. And he moved up for his legacy and to grab titles in other divisions. Do you know who was actually left in the middleweight division back in 2005 after he lost to Taylor? There was only Winky Wright, Howard Eastman, and Felix Sturm, Arthur Abraham, & Kelly Pavlik. He already beat Eastman and Abraham moved up to Super Middleweight. You would know what Hopkins actually did IF you really knew anything about his career. Hopkins started chasing money, legacy, and titles, more so money. He moved up after Taylor and fought Tarver for the Light Heavyweight belt. Then Winky Wright moved up to challenge Hopkins at a catch weight of 170 lbs, no belts were at stake. Then calzaghe moved up to challenge Hopkins for his “Ring” Light Heavyweight belt, not a sanctioning title fight. Then Pavlik, a middleweight, moved up to challenge Hopkins and no belts were at stake. Then later on, Hopkins fought a rematch with Roy for money purposes. Then he went up and eventually won the Light Heabyweight title again from Pascal, lost it to Dawson, won it again from Cloud, then lost it again to Kovalev. None of those fights had nothing, zero to do with Hopkins taking those fights because he wanted to avoid quicker middleweights as YOU said. That’s ignorant and ******. There were NO middleweights left for him to fight. And mentioning Joppy as a HOF’er was simply a typo. He has too many losses and not enough wins against great or other HOF’ers. I would never say or think that. That was a typo.

The reason i mentioned Hopkins change of style was because he said so himself. You disagreed, but then said yourself he changed to conserve energy, which he did. Again, i wanst saying Taylor was smaller than him, but that he had a harder time against him because of hes speed and pace. When he moved up, he said himself he had no trouble with the weight. He had to hire a trainer so he could bulk up and fight Tarver. He was old and slower himself. Look at who Hopkins did well against as he aged. Winky, who was on the slide, Tarver who was old and struggling with the weight. Pavlik, a big puncher who was one paced and lacked speed and workrate. Styles that suit an aging fighter. Who did he struggle with? Calzaghe, who was fast with a high workrate despite being advanced in age, still younger than Bhop. Dawson,young and fast. Even Pascal, while not being a workrate fighter and light years behind in skills held him to a draw. Its quite easy to see. As you get older the faster, smaller guys with the workrate trouble you more. I cant see exactly what you're disagreeing with. Its better to fight the bigger slower guys where your skills arent countered by their athletic ability as much.I can feel this myself even in sparring. Light heavies are easier to handle than light middles for me now, 41 years young. I look the same, but the reflexes slow, dont they? Btw man, look at what i wrote. I said age plays a part because those younger smallerquicker guys are a problem. I didnt say struggling with hes weight or hes age was why Bernard moved up, i stated the facts why Bernard struggled with Taylor. Older guys do worse below lightheavy generally. Fact.

[markther]

The reason i mentioned Hopkins change of style was because he said so himself. You disagreed, but then said yourself he changed to conserve energy, which he did. Again, i wanst saying Taylor was smaller than him, but that he had a harder time against him because of hes speed and pace. When he moved up, he said himself he had no trouble with the weight. He had to hire a trainer so he could bulk up and fight Tarver. He was old and slower himself. Look at who Hopkins did well against as he aged. Winky, who was on the slide, Tarver who was old and struggling with the weight. Pavlik, a big puncher who was one paced and lacked speed and workrate. Styles that suit an aging fighter. Who did he struggle with? Calzaghe, who was fast with a high workrate despite being advanced in age, still younger than Bhop. Dawson,young and fast. Even Pascal, while not being a workrate fighter and light years behind in skills held him to a draw. Its quite easy to see. As you get older the faster, smaller guys with the workrate trouble you more. I cant see exactly what you're disagreeing with. Its better to fight the bigger slower guys where your skills arent countered by their athletic ability as much.I can feel this myself even in sparring. Light heavies are easier to handle than light middles for me now, 41 years young. I look the same, but the reflexes slow, dont they? Btw man, look at what i wrote. I said age plays a part because those younger smallerquicker guys are a problem. I didnt say struggling with hes weight or hes age was why Bernard moved up, i stated the facts why Bernard struggled with Taylor. Older guys do worse below lightheavy generally. Fact.

Lessoning your volume of punches has nothing to to with changing your actual fighting style or technique or fundamentals inside the ring. Preserving your energy and your volume of punches is simply about maximizing your efficiency inside the ring. That has nothing to do with losing quickness or speed or worrying about another fighters speed or quickness. And that’s more about maximizing your conditioning throughout the fight. I’ve been around a lot of fighters, fought myself as an amateur, and been around a lot of trainers. So again your point there is CLUELESS.

Point #2, Tarver was not “older and slower,” when he fought Hopkins. Before he fought Hopkins, he only has (3) total losses. One early in his career to Harding. The second one in the 1st fight with Roy Jones Jr before he avenged that by a quick KO. And the 3rd loss was to Glen Johnson who he avenged that loss in a rematch. He went on to beat Roy a 2nd time by unanimous decision. Tarver only excuse wasn’t that he was old and slower. It was that he had just finished preparing for the Rocky movie and had to get back down to the Light heavyweight limit before the Hopkins fight. That’s public knowledge.

Winky Wright wasn’t on any slide. One year prior; he drew with Jermain Taylor, arguably winning that fight, the same guy Hopkins lost to twice. And Winky beat Quartey. 2 year prior to the Hopkins fight, he had just beat Trinadad. Winky was 36 when he fought Hopkins, the same age GGG was during his rematch with Canelo.

Your making excuses for Pavlik. Didn’t he knock out Jermain Taylor twice. So by your logic, Taylor was smaller and quicker than Hopkins. That’s what YOU said in YOUR initial post. So if Hopkins was bigger and slower the Pavlik; why did he dominate him the way that he did. You would think Taylor would have dominated Pavlik he way Hopkins did. I mean he did have Pavlik in trouble in the first fight. Didn’t put him away.
So your point about Pavlik is irrelevant and nonsense.

You said Calzaghe was younger and faster than BHop. And then you said Dawson was younger and faster. But you stated in your last point that older guys struggle against fighter below Light Heavyweight. Wasn’t Dawson a light heavyweight. And didn’t Calzaghe move up in weight or challenge Hopkins at Light Heavyweight. So your last point has ZERO to do with those (2) fights. Again, Hopkins didn’t lose those fights because he was older or slower. He lost against Calzaghe, Dawson, and Taylor because he was more reluctant to pull the trigger on his counter power shots similar to GGG against Canelo. And we already established in 2005, that there were no middleweights left for him to fight that could generate the kind of money Hopkins needed but you missed that point because your still trying to sell a bunch of garbage. And name the other smaller and faster fighters that Hopkins struggled with in his entire career if that’s your point. If your going to make that case, throw out some other names besides Taylor from “below” middleweight. No one gets a consensus or sample size on (1) fight. As a matter of fact, just name other fighters that struggled with smaller and faster opponents because of their age. And don’t say GGG, because a lot of people thought he won both fights. I’m talking about older fights that got dominated fighting smaller and faster opponents. And your point with Hopkins doesn’t make sense because the only time he fought smaller and faster opponents was when he dominated Trinidad and De La Hoya. Again, both Hopkins and Taylor were both middleweights. And Hopkins lost to Taylor because he didn’t fight his fight. He didn’t throw enough power shots. He didn’t pull the trigger. He fought Taylor the same way he fought Calzaghe and Dawson and Pascal in their first fight. And he fought Taylor the same way he fought Kovalev. However, Hopkins pulled the trigger on his counter shots against a younger Tarver, Winky Wright, Pavlik, Murat, Cloud, has Pascal in their 2nd fight.

Your looking way to deep into stuff and making embarrassing boxing analogies and points.

And did you know that Pascal beat Dawson before Dawson beat Hopkins. But you said Pascal doesn’t have a good work rate right? And didn’t Pascal fight to draw with Hopkins before Hopkins won a unanimous decision in their 2nd fight.

And then you say styles make fights. THATS ALL IT WAS WITH EVERY HOPKINS FIGHT. His fights has zero to do with his age, or lack of speed, or opponents being smaller. Every fight is approached differently.

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Hopkins during the Kellerman interview looked like he was gonna cum

[Mindgames]

Lessoning your volume of punches has nothing to to with changing your actual fighting style or technique or fundamentals inside the ring. Preserving your energy and your volume of punches is simply about maximizing your efficiency inside the ring. That has nothing to do with losing quickness or speed or worrying about another fighters speed or quickness. And that’s more about maximizing your conditioning throughout the fight. I’ve been around a lot of fighters, fought myself as an amateur, and been around a lot of trainers. So again your point there is CLUELESS.

Point #2, Tarver was not “older and slower,” when he fought Hopkins. Before he fought Hopkins, he only has (3) total losses. One early in his career to Harding. The second one in the 1st fight with Roy Jones Jr before he avenged that by a quick KO. And the 3rd loss was to Glen Johnson who he avenged that loss in a rematch. He went on to beat Roy a 2nd time by unanimous decision. Tarver only excuse wasn’t that he was old and slower. It was that he had just finished preparing for the Rocky movie and had to get back down to the Light heavyweight limit before the Hopkins fight. That’s public knowledge.

Winky Wright wasn’t on any slide. One year prior; he drew with Jermain Taylor, arguably winning that fight, the same guy Hopkins lost to twice. And Winky beat Quartey. 2 year prior to the Hopkins fight, he had just beat Trinadad. Winky was 36 when he fought Hopkins, the same age GGG was during his rematch with Canelo.

Your making excuses for Pavlik. Didn’t he knock out Jermain Taylor twice. So by your logic, Taylor was smaller and quicker than Hopkins. That’s what YOU said in YOUR initial post. So if Hopkins was bigger and slower the Pavlik; why did he dominate him the way that he did. You would think Taylor would have dominated Pavlik he way Hopkins did. I mean he did have Pavlik in trouble in the first fight. Didn’t put him away.
So your point about Pavlik is irrelevant and nonsense.

You said Calzaghe was younger and faster than BHop. And then you said Dawson was younger and faster. But you stated in your last point that older guys struggle against fighter below Light Heavyweight. Wasn’t Dawson a light heavyweight. And didn’t Calzaghe move up in weight or challenge Hopkins at Light Heavyweight. So your last point has ZERO to do with those (2) fights. Again, Hopkins didn’t lose those fights because he was older or slower. He lost against Calzaghe, Dawson, and Taylor because he was more reluctant to pull the trigger on his counter power shots similar to GGG against Canelo. And we already established in 2005, that there were no middleweights left for him to fight that could generate the kind of money Hopkins needed but you missed that point because your still trying to sell a bunch of garbage. And name the other smaller and faster fighters that Hopkins struggled with in his entire career if that’s your point. If your going to make that case, throw out some other names besides Taylor from “below” middleweight. No one gets a consensus or sample size on (1) fight. As a matter of fact, just name other fighters that struggled with smaller and faster opponents because of their age. And don’t say GGG, because a lot of people thought he won both fights. I’m talking about older fights that got dominated fighting smaller and faster opponents. And your point with Hopkins doesn’t make sense because the only time he fought smaller and faster opponents was when he dominated Trinidad and De La Hoya. Again, both Hopkins and Taylor were both middleweights. And Hopkins lost to Taylor because he didn’t fight his fight. He didn’t throw enough power shots. He didn’t pull the trigger. He fought Taylor the same way he fought Calzaghe and Dawson and Pascal in their first fight. And he fought Taylor the same way he fought Kovalev. However, Hopkins pulled the trigger on his counter shots against a younger Tarver, Winky Wright, Pavlik, Murat, Cloud, has Pascal in their 2nd fight.

Your looking way to deep into stuff and making embarrassing boxing analogies and points.

And did you know that Pascal beat Dawson before Dawson beat Hopkins. But you said Pascal doesn’t have a good work rate right? And didn’t Pascal fight to draw with Hopkins before Hopkins won a unanimous decision in their 2nd fight.

And then you say styles make fights. THATS ALL IT WAS WITH EVERY HOPKINS FIGHT. His fights has zero to do with his age, or lack of speed, or opponents being smaller. Every fight is approached differently.

I stated the obvious about Hopkins struggling with Taylor because he was older, and older fighters struggle with younger faster fighters. If you box and are around boxers you know this. Hopkins had changed hes style, earlier in hes career he was more of a brawler, mauler, used roughouse tactics and had a higher workrate. He stated in interviews himself that he became better defensively and threw less shots. Styles make fights and older fighters with slower reflexes have more trouble with fast handed guys with high work rates. What you dont seem to understand is that i was using Calzaghe and Dawson as examples of fighters who beat Hopkins because of speed and workrate, things that made Hopkins struggle against Taylor because of hes age! Its irrelevant how Pavkic did with Taylor, or how Pascal did with Dawson, this is discussing how Hopkins couldnt cope with speed and youth because he was older, slower and didnt have the stamina of hes youth. He fought Taylor twice and lost, not because he had the wrong tactics, he was a master tactician. He lost because he struggled with the speed and workrate. Dont even dream to compare the performance of Tarver, a man who had to lose 40lbs because he was filming Rocky to Taylor, Calzaghe or Dawson. He had power and range, like Pavlik, but Bernard didnt struggle with that kind of thing as he aged, and i never said he did. He struggled with young fast guys. He couldnt beat Taylor with two tries, but id have trouble seeing him losing to Taylor years earlier. He struggled with Dawson and Calzaghe. Fast, good workrate. He did well with low workrate slower guys like Pavlik and Tarver. He was 50 when Kovalev beat him so that's not worth mentioning. You obviously think that speed doesnt bother older guys, you think that not pulling the trigger has nothing to do with the handspeed of the other guy.Older guys struggle with young fast guys. Thats why Bernard couldnt beat a guy who Pavlik, Abraham and Froch could. Twice. Its called age. How the guys mix up with each other is irrelevant. Its how they mix up with him. Try this. Taylor, fast good workrate. Bhop loses. Tarver, low workrate, slower. Bhop wins. Calzaghe fast, good workrate. Bhop loses. Dawson, fast, good workrate. Bhop loses.Why do you think he said he didnt want Ward. He said it. Too fast, too skillful, to busy. GGG the other day. Struggling with Canelos speed, just like he did Brook, Jacobs. Young fast. Watch Hagler Leonard. Hagler old, too slow, not busy enough early. The exact age doesn't matter, we know fighters get old at different rates. But the fact is older guys, do better at heavier weights, you know, that's where the older champions tend to be. How about Moore, Foreman, Hopkins, Klitschko. Successful late 30s 40s.How well are the middles doing by then. Any middle champs, or below in their 40s you can think of? Try to answer what im saying, not what you think im saying. And if you do box, i promise you as you age you'll struggle more with the younger faster guy's. Its common sense. As if a fight has zero to do with a guy having youth and speed on you lol. And as if younger, faster guys arent generally in the lower divisions. Gotta laugh at young amateurs in their dreamworlds. ��

[markther]

I stated the obvious about Hopkins struggling with Taylor because he was older, and older fighters struggle with younger faster fighters. If you box and are around boxers you know this. Hopkins had changed hes style, earlier in hes career he was more of a brawler, mauler, used roughouse tactics and had a higher workrate. He stated in interviews himself that he became better defensively and threw less shots. Styles make fights and older fighters with slower reflexes have more trouble with fast handed guys with high work rates. What you dont seem to understand is that i was using Calzaghe and Dawson as examples of fighters who beat Hopkins because of speed and workrate, things that made Hopkins struggle against Taylor because of hes age! Its irrelevant how Pavkic did with Taylor, or how Pascal did with Dawson, this is discussing how Hopkins couldnt cope with speed and youth because he was older, slower and didnt have the stamina of hes youth. He fought Taylor twice and lost, not because he had the wrong tactics, he was a master tactician. He lost because he struggled with the speed and workrate. Dont even dream to compare the performance of Tarver, a man who had to lose 40lbs because he was filming Rocky to Taylor, Calzaghe or Dawson. He had power and range, like Pavlik, but Bernard didnt struggle with that kind of thing as he aged, and i never said he did. He struggled with young fast guys. He couldnt beat Taylor with two tries, but id have trouble seeing him losing to Taylor years earlier. He struggled with Dawson and Calzaghe. Fast, good workrate. He did well with low workrate slower guys like Pavlik and Tarver. He was 50 when Kovalev beat him so that's not worth mentioning. You obviously think that speed doesnt bother older guys, you think that not pulling the trigger has nothing to do with the handspeed of the other guy.Older guys struggle with young fast guys. Thats why Bernard couldnt beat a guy who Pavlik, Abraham and Froch could. Twice. Its called age. How the guys mix up with each other is irrelevant. Its how they mix up with him. Try this. Taylor, fast good workrate. Bhop loses. Tarver, low workrate, slower. Bhop wins. Calzaghe fast, good workrate. Bhop loses. Dawson, fast, good workrate. Bhop loses.Why do you think he said he didnt want Ward. He said it. Too fast, too skillful, to busy. GGG the other day. Struggling with Canelos speed, just like he did Brook, Jacobs. Young fast. Watch Hagler Leonard. Hagler old, too slow, not busy enough early. The exact age doesn't matter, we know fighters get old at different rates. But the fact is older guys, do better at heavier weights, you know, that's where the older champions tend to be. How about Moore, Foreman, Hopkins, Klitschko. Successful late 30s 40s.How well are the middles doing by then. Any middle champs, or below in their 40s you can think of? Try to answer what im saying, not what you think im saying. And if you do box, i promise you as you age you'll struggle more with the younger faster guy's. Its common sense. As if a fight has zero to do with a guy having youth and speed on you lol. And as if younger, faster guys arent generally in the lower divisions. Gotta laugh at young amateurs in their dreamworlds. ��

I am actually laughing at you inside a gym with a bunch of fighters around today. You are clueless. Everything you just said is inaccurate and I don’t have anymore time to go into everything you just said. Your all over the map with utter nonsense, especially your point about Hagler. So many things happened in that fight and some people thought Hagler actually won it. So it’s obvious you have never been inside a ring or a fight or around trainers or fighters or people that actually know boxing for that matter. There are a lot of nuisances and circumstances that you don’t clearly understand about boxing right now. Your a baby when it comes to understanding boxing. And just because you write a lot of stuff doesn’t mean it’s accurate to the trained eye. That’s why, when someone tries to educate you about the sport, it goes way over your head. Instead of learning something, you fire back with theories and more nonsense like you just did. I can’t waste anymore time with you, you are clueless-LOL!

[Mindgames]

I am actually laughing at you inside a gym with a bunch of fighters around today. You are clueless. Everything you just said is inaccurate and I don’t have anymore time to go into everything you just said. Your all over the map with utter nonsense, especially your point about Hagler. So many things happened in that fight and some people thought Hagler actually won it. So it’s obvious you have never been inside a ring or a fight or around trainers or fighters or people that actually know boxing for that matter. There are a lot of nuisances and circumstances that you don’t clearly understand about boxing right now. Your a baby when it comes to understanding boxing. And just because you write a lot of stuff doesn’t mean it’s accurate to the trained eye. That’s why, when someone tries to educate you about the sport, it goes way over your head. Instead of learning something, you fire back with theories and more nonsense like you just did. I can’t waste anymore time with you, you are clueless-LOL!

Your sitting in a gym around fighters are you mug? Lol your sitting in your bedroom watching **** between your answers. The whole post you wrote says nothing. Age slows you down, reflexes, cardio, handspeed, they all deteriorate. Everybody knows that, theres no nuisances or circumstances, what the hell are you on about? I train at a real gym, its called the Lynn Ac. Its in South east London. Ive trained with champions like Lloyd Honeygan, Darren Dyer and Ted Bamy, top fighters like Danny Williams and Henry Akinwande, Derek Angol, Duke Mckenzie. You watch fights on Youtube and pull your plonker watching men at weigh ins you little bellend. What did i say about Hagler. That he had more trouble with the faster, smaller, mobile Leonard because hed aged and hes reflexes had slowed.You know who else thought that. Leonard himself and the whole boxing world consensus opinion. It doesnt matter who you thought won. Now, give your mum her phone back youre running out her data you little prickface.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by A.K View Post
Canelo has a hell of a chin but cause he survived doesn’t mean he should of got the nod. I don’t know where this Golovkin got tired mess is coming from the man was clearly dominating the last 4 rounds up until the last minute of the fight.

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You didn't see him gasping for air in the mid rounds?

Both of them were cause they’re human boxing is The biggest stamina testing sport there is. Try sprinting 3 minutes straight 12 times while getting hit.. you not gonna be gasping bruh?

I'm aware of the concept of boxing. I boxed when I was younger, was a distance runner, long jumper, shot putter, weight lifter. GGG was getting his azz kicked, and he nearly folded because of it. That he was able to pull himself past getting dropped is good, but it doesn't take away from the fact he was in terrible shape at a few points in the fight. And post-fight, his face looked like he was smashed by someone with a 2x4. Canelo was tired by the end, yes they both were, but the right guy won the fight. Just take your crow burger and deal with it.

And BTW, it isn't "should of got the nod". It's either should've or should have. We have English as a universal language. Don't twist it around until we can no longer communicate as a people.