HBO IS DEAD THEIR OBSESSION WITH EE FIGHTERS KILLED It

[Bjl12]

I'm not sure it was their "obsession". They lost Lomachenko because Top Rank went to ESPN and GGG would draw it's highest ratings outside of Canelo. I think Kovalev drew better than most on it too. It's not like the Super Fly cards are drawing well or if the Jacobs shows did well or if Ward was drawing well.

They simply just cut their budget and had less and less dates and promoters took their guys elsewhere. I don't think it's due to showing European boxers I think it's more down to they just didn't have regular programming.

I think it's very likely in 12 months there will be no more HBO Boxing. I think Kellerman and Lampley are insanely biased and at times annoying but I still like the production value and excitement that an HBO broadcast produces. A lot of classic fights I still watch to this day were HBO shows. Them days are gone.

Lampley is such a joke its scary

"****, ****, ****, ****, BLOOOOOOOOOWJOB"

[The D3vil]

I just feel like the sport has changed.

Boxing is more of an Eastern European and Latino sport now. It's simple as that.

There are some Black fighters who are prominent, but they're not like Sugar Ray Leonord or Sugar Shane Mosley types. They're dudes like Broner and Gervonta Davis, who come off ass *******s that people don't want to support. Mayweather could get away with that because he was a once in a generation talent.

A kid like Stevenson would be good, but I feel like he's too young for primetime.

Guys like GGG and Chocolatito and Kovalev are what the sport is now. None of that is HBO's fault.

Now, yeah Haymon has something to do with it, but if there was still a constant stream of Black kids from Detroit and White kids from Ohio who were boxing at a high-level, this wouldn't be an issue.

Pernell Whittaker aint coming through that door folks.

[Curt Henning]

I just feel like the sport has changed.

Boxing is more of an Eastern European and Latino sport now. It's simple as that.

There are some Black fighters who are prominent, but they're not like Sugar Ray Leonord or Sugar Shane Mosley types. They're dudes like Broner and Gervonta Davis, who come off ass *******s that people don't want to support. Mayweather could get away with that because he was a once in a generation talent.

A kid like Stevenson would be good, but I feel like he's too young for primetime.

Guys like GGG and Chocolatito and Kovalev are what the sport is now. None of that is HBO's fault.

Now, yeah Haymon has something to do with it, but there was still a constant stream of Black kids from Detroit and White kids from Ohio who were boxing at a high-level, he wouldn't be able to sign them all.

well ya...the sport has changed...its blatantly obvious

the sugar shane/leonard types dont sell anymore....america loves the ignorant black hood type out there acting a fool...thats how they get attention now......

[Real King Kong]

I'm not sure it was their "obsession". They lost Lomachenko because Top Rank went to ESPN and GGG would draw it's highest ratings outside of Canelo. I think Kovalev drew better than most on it too. It's not like the Super Fly cards are drawing well or if the Jacobs shows did well or if Ward was drawing well.

They simply just cut their budget and had less and less dates and promoters took their guys elsewhere. I don't think it's due to showing European boxers I think it's more down to they just didn't have regular programming.

I think it's very likely in 12 months there will be no more HBO Boxing. I think Kellerman and Lampley are insanely biased and at times annoying but I still like the production value and excitement that an HBO broadcast produces. A lot of classic fights I still watch to this day were HBO shows. Them days are gone.

Agree with all this.

[HURTFEELINGS]

I just feel like the sport has changed.

Boxing is more of an Eastern European and Latino sport now. It's simple as that.

There are some Black fighters who are prominent, but they're not like Sugar Ray Leonord or Sugar Shane Mosley types. They're dudes like Broner and Gervonta Davis, who come off ass *******s that people don't want to support. Mayweather could get away with that because he was a once in a generation talent.

A kid like Stevenson would be good, but I feel like he's too young for primetime.

Guys like GGG and Chocolatito and Kovalev are what the sport is now. None of that is HBO's fault.

Now, yeah Haymon has something to do with it, but if there was still a constant stream of Black kids from Detroit and White kids from Ohio who were boxing at a high-level, this wouldn't be an issue.

Pernell Whittaker and coming through that door folks.

Its "Prize Fighting" and boxers have now learned through other former boxers examples, and have learned how to maximize their income.
2: poor people are always dominate Boxing
3.Broner is a 4 division champion and making millions, your idea of success is different from his.
4 Davis still has a chance, he's young, boxers change as they age.
5.Just Mayweather haters who professed that boxing needed more brawling, less boxing and NONE of that worked. FACTS
Just my opinion

[champion4ever]

It's because the Eastern Europe bloc fighters are much cheaper and less expensive to broadcast as opposed to the North American fighters.

[Zaryu]

I didn't even watch the video, but I do hope HBO gets out of the boxing business soon. I enjoy their production and commentary, but they've divested so much from the sport already that they're not even a boxing channel for me anymore.

Catching fights on the network is an inconvenience for me. Since I only cared for HBO due to their boxing I know longer pay them for anything and I'm forced to find other ways to watch their fights.

[champion4ever]

I just feel like the sport has changed.

Boxing is more of an Eastern European and Latino sport now. It's simple as that.

There are some Black fighters who are prominent, but they're not like Sugar Ray Leonord or Sugar Shane Mosley types. They're dudes like Broner and Gervonta Davis, who come off ass *******s that people don't want to support. Mayweather could get away with that because he was a once in a generation talent.

A kid like Stevenson would be good, but I feel like he's too young for primetime.

Guys like GGG and Chocolatito and Kovalev are what the sport is now. None of that is HBO's fault.

Now, yeah Haymon has something to do with it, but if there was still a constant stream of Black kids from Detroit and White kids from Ohio who were boxing at a high-level, this wouldn't be an issue.

Pernell Whittaker and coming through that door folks.

The best fighters and most American fighters are signed with the PBC; Through its affiliates Showtime, CBS, Fox and FS1.

[g27region]

Don't sign Eastern European fighters anymore, ladies and gentleman, and your business will be fine. Global warming is their fault too. Just sign fighters like Broner or Amir Khan

[The D3vil]

well ya...the sport has changed...its blatantly obvious

the sugar shane/leonard types dont sell anymore....america loves the ignorant black hood type out there acting a fool...thats how they get attention now......

It's not selling, that's the point. Guys like Broner and Gervonta may have an audience, but it's not the crossover audience that guys like Leonard and Ali or even a Tyson (who was a street cat, but was a once in a generation talent like Mayweather)

Its "Prize Fighting" and boxers have now learned through other former boxers examples, and have learned how to maximize their income.
2: poor people are always dominate Boxing
3.Broner is a 4 division champion and making millions, your idea of success is different from his.
4 Davis still has a chance, he's young, boxers change as they age.
5.Just Mayweather haters who professed that boxing needed more brawling, less boxing and NONE of that worked. FACTS
Just my opinion

1. What they do to "maximize" their income is shrinking the pie in boxing as more people tune out as guys fight a lot less and duck each other, while at the same time coming off as unlikeable.

2. Well duh, the Latin and Eastern European fighters come from wayyyyy poorer environments than urban Americans do.

3. Adrien Broner was a weight bully, who was exposed the minute he stepped a foot outside of 135 and won alphabet belts just to say he won them.

4. I like Gervonta, but America is never gonna like him. He's got too many tats and just too hood. He might be able to get away with that if he was a transcendent Mike Tyson/Floyd Mayweather type talent, but he's just a good not great fighter, so he's limited in his appeal.

The best fighters and most American fighters are signed with the PBC; Through its affiliates Showtime, CBS, Fox and FS1.

Oh I agree, but it's only because there's not that many elite American fighters anymore.

At heavyweight, we've pretty much only got Wilder.

At crusierweight, we've got nothing.

At light heavy we've got Marcus Browne

At 168, we've got nothing great.

At 160, we've got Charlo & Jacobs

At 154, we've got Charlo and Hurd

At 147, we've got Thurman, Spence, Porter, and Garcia.

And lower than that is when people start to tune out completely outside of hardcore fans.

None of the guys I named outside of maybe Errol Spence are transcendent talents that will lead the sport.

There's not a lot of great American boxers right now that could fill out some of the other promotional rosters.