Comments Thread For: Report: New PBC, FOX Deal Finalized For FOX, FS1 Broadcasts

[Eff Pandas]

I dont understand why they don't do it though. Keep Canelo on HBO PPV and announce through a media release we're out as it's not profitable.

However HBO signing Jim Lampley for another three years, tells me they are not out yet. I suspect it makes Boxing makes HBO a more attractive product for lower in ome households

Yea they probably just keep getting smaller for the next 3yrs, but lets not act like they couldn't still be done before then & just keep paying Jim or use him for other non-boxing sports or sports docs perhaps.

I'm not trying to make any specific prediction with when HBO closes up shop but it does seem like things have gotten smaller for a long time & eventually one can assume it'll lead to boxing on HBO ceasing to be a thing.

[N/A]

so what did kevin iole mean when he said top rank has to give away their entire vertical? originally when the deal was announced people were saying espn were getting a 360?

top rank is getting a small percentage of the espn+ revenue, depending on how much their fight library is watched on the service. there are other incentives as well. on the other hand, if TR does a PPV, ESPN gets a nice taste of the action. so both sides are dipping into revenue from the other side. but in terms of the actual budget for the fights, it grows each year, but isn't anywhere near the SHO budget or FOX budget, let alone combined. it is bigger than the HBO budget though.

[KTFOKING]

So probably $50 million or thereabouts as I think you said on Show Money.

It looks like DAZN, ESPN, Showtime, and HBO in that order for annual boxing budgets moving forward.

— Mookie Alexander (@mookiealexander) August 8, 2018

Someone was reporting a little while ago too that Top Rank has very big upsides if they meet goals, so deal could end up being much higher.

Yeah that order sounds right. Don't know where FOX will be if their PBC deal is real. And **** Facebook may be higher than HBO next year.

— John S. Nash (@heynottheface) August 8, 2018

Again, I highly doubt they have a budget of $32 million with 30 shows.

[lanker rom]

top rank is getting a small percentage of the espn+ revenue, depending on how much their fight library is watched on the service. there are other incentives as well. on the other hand, if TR does a PPV, ESPN gets a nice taste of the action. so both sides are dipping into revenue from the other side. but in terms of the actual budget for the fights, it grows each year, but isn't anywhere near the SHO budget or FOX budget, let alone combined. it is bigger than the HBO budget though.

I see and thanks your one of the few on this sight who always give fair well thought out answers so im going to ask you a weird theory and question I just thought of?


How does haymon and bob arum handle gangsters in boxing? For instance J prince and Kathy duvas lawyer were said to be gangsters.


Also is it possible that roc nation actually was working with haymon behind the scenes. It seems as though they took out the shady promoters and then just left town

This is crazy I know but I trust your opinion enough to let me know if im jumping the gun

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I see and thanks your one of the few on this sight who always give fair well thought out answers so im going to ask you a weird theory and question I just thought of?


How does haymon and bob arum handle gangsters in boxing? For instance J prince and Kathy duvas lawyer were said to be gangsters.


Also is it possible that roc nation actually was working with haymon behind the scenes. It seems as though they took out the shady promoters and then just left town

This is crazy I know but I trust your opinion enough to let me know if im jumping the gun

enough people in the industry have figured out who i am that it wouldn't be wise for me to post publicly about any alleged "gangsters."

[lanker rom]

enough people in the industry have figured out who i am that it wouldn't be wise for me to post publicly about any alleged "gangsters."

true once again thanks...….
just my guess I think haymon and jay z actually have a great relationship and they work together

[lanker rom]

So probably $50 million or thereabouts as I think you said on Show Money.

It looks like DAZN, ESPN, Showtime, and HBO in that order for annual boxing budgets moving forward.

— Mookie Alexander (@mookiealexander) August 8, 2018

Someone was reporting a little while ago too that Top Rank has very big upsides if they meet goals, so deal could end up being much higher.

Yeah that order sounds right. Don't know where FOX will be if their PBC deal is real. And **** Facebook may be higher than HBO next year.

— John S. Nash (@heynottheface) August 8, 2018

Again, I highly doubt they have a budget of $32 million with 30 shows.

that maybe true but its possible that its like an elevator and can reach 50 mill to

[BWC]

ESPN and TR are already married for the foreseeable future, as are HBO and Canelo.

Even if the ESPN/TR ink wasn't dry, which it is, GBP just doesn't have the depth to give ESPN what they want. Even TR barely has the depth, but at least they have the experience to fake it. Beyond Canelo, GBP has practically nothing and Canelo only fights on PPV. Golden Boy will be boxed out of the business after Canelo's run is over.

PBC will control at least 80% of the market in three years. Crazy

[lightsoutrome]

That darn PBC just won't die!

Why would you want it to?

[Scipio2009]

I mentioned wrestling before and maybe they'll use WWEs Brand split. Raw and Smackdown are split. Well don't know what's goin on now haven't watched in like 15 years lol.

Brand split fell apart a long while ago; there were other reasons, but a big one was when SmackDown faced a run where basically the 6 of the top 7 guys on the show all got hurt around the same time and the show was rough to watch.

Have tried to bring it back in the last couple of years though