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  • turnedup
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    #51
    Reading these Joshua/Wilder threads is like a time machine back to 2009 with Floyd and Manny. Seriously, people get a grip. These are three oversized guys in a weak as hell division. Superstar? None have actually earned that ***** through fighting, with their mouths? Media? PR? Yeah, fighting...not a chance.

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    • P4Pdunny
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      #52
      I like AJ but I'm almost certain he doesn't want this fight. Between him and Wilder - they got all the belts in the division, a fight for undisputed is enough leg to stand on for both to get this fight made. Wilder and his team aren't blameless, but for whatever reason whether you think its a cash-out or that they think they can win (i think its the latter) they seem to want the fight. The Hearns don't want the fight, and I don't think AJ does.
      Last edited by P4Pdunny; 09-03-2018, 03:51 AM.

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      • allen23
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        #53
        Originally posted by P4Pdunny
        I like AJ but I'm almost certain he doesn't want this fight. Between him and Wilder - they got all the belts in the division, a fight for undisputed is enough leg to stand on for both to get this fight made. Wilder and his team aren't blameless, but for whatever reason whether you think its a cash or that they think they can win (i think its the latter) they seem to want the fight. The Hearns don't want the fight, and I don't think AJ does.
        hearn wants to forever milk his cash cow

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        • iamboxing
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          #54
          AJ talks like someone who has just retired after a legendary run in the sport. What a condescending cvnt.

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          • Froch_uppercut
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            To answer your question see the bolded text above.
            So...basically you've got nothing.

            You KNOW every part is true, and could not select a single part for critique.

            If you're blue collar, and you voted for Trump, that'll explain things somewhat. You're easily fooled.

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            • Froch_uppercut
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              #56
              Originally posted by P4Pdunny
              I like AJ but I'm almost certain he doesn't want this fight. Between him and Wilder - they got all the belts in the division, a fight for undisputed is enough leg to stand on for both to get this fight made. Wilder and his team aren't blameless, but for whatever reason whether you think its a cash-out or that they think they can win (i think its the latter) they seem to want the fight. The Hearns don't want the fight, and I don't think AJ does.
              Seriously though, American / Wilder fans seem to totally disregard how this went down. My only explanation for that is that he (Wilder) has been more vocal and done more trolling. But there's actually no substance to what he says. Can you have a genuine look at the points below and tell me something..., not being a **** just interested to know how AJ is the bad guy here? These are FACTS.

              Wilder didn't respond to offers.

              Asked AJ to accept a fight over social media but would not show Hearn / Joshua any terms.

              Would not travel to UK for Joshua V Parker.

              Would not show up in NYC when Hearn went there to make the fight. Neither did any of his several 'promoters'.

              Held on to a written offer sent and would not even speak or respond - KNOWING that time was running out for Joshua.

              Currently has a ****ing signed offer for Wembley to fight AJ in 2019, won't sign it.

              The current talk out of their respective mouths is ....

              AJ saying "great, he beats Fury it makes it even bigger"

              and Wilder...

              "I'll never fight AJ".

              Let's put allegiances aside and see this for what it is.

              Some people can't tell the difference between Wilder trolling and an actual professional approach and desire to make the fight. Wilder has decided to price himself out of it cos he wants no part of Joshua. They should film the negotiations, if anyone can get Wilder / Finkel to the table.

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              • Ray*
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                #57
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                Of course. At least Wilder frequently speaks of knocking Joshua out.

                I am not sure a person who says that a champion should get paid less than what a mandatory Challenger would get paid can be called unbiased.
                So applying the same logic to both fighters is unbiased because one saying I “would knock you out” lol. In boxing the B-side speaks the most. They have to...

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                • Randall Cunning
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                  #58
                  They could have gotten away with it if Warren didn't open his mouth. What the hell is Finkel doing trying to make deals with Warren/BT Sport regarding Joshua/Wilder, that **** would never slip past. TBH I think those last round of Joshua/Wilder negotiations were all part of the build up for a Wilder/Fury fight. Deal was made for Wilder and Fury to fight as far back as April.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                    They could have gotten away with it if Warren didn't open his mouth. What the hell is Finkel doing trying to make deals with Warren/BT Sport regarding Joshua/Wilder, that **** would never slip past. TBH I think those last round of Joshua/Wilder negotiations were all part of the build up for a Wilder/Fury fight. Deal was made for Wilder and Fury to fight as far back as April.
                    If that was their plan all along then kudos to them, they fool a lot of their fans. I never subscribed to the “They are ducking me” stuff anyways. Usually the ones accusing other of ducking them are the ones that uses money to hold up a fight.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                      Seriously though, American / Wilder fans seem to totally disregard how this went down. My only explanation for that is that he (Wilder) has been more vocal and done more trolling. But there's actually no substance to what he says. Can you have a genuine look at the points below and tell me something..., not being a **** just interested to know how AJ is the bad guy here? These are FACTS.

                      Wilder didn't respond to offers.

                      Asked AJ to accept a fight over social media but would not show Hearn / Joshua any terms.

                      Would not travel to UK for Joshua V Parker.

                      Would not show up in NYC when Hearn went there to make the fight. Neither did any of his several 'promoters'.

                      Held on to a written offer sent and would not even speak or respond - KNOWING that time was running out for Joshua.

                      Currently has a ****ing signed offer for Wembley to fight AJ in 2019, won't sign it.

                      The current talk out of their respective mouths is ....

                      AJ saying "great, he beats Fury it makes it even bigger"

                      and Wilder...

                      "I'll never fight AJ".

                      Let's put allegiances aside and see this for what it is.

                      Some people can't tell the difference between Wilder trolling and an actual professional approach and desire to make the fight. Wilder has decided to price himself out of it cos he wants no part of Joshua. They should film the negotiations, if anyone can get Wilder / Finkel to the table.


                      They are sooo blind it’s unbelievable, am not a Joshua fan but I found my self defending him in this whole saga. They tried to pin all of this on one side. But if you look at each side without any bias then you can see they carry equal blame for this fight not happening. Just because Wilder is vocal doesn’t mean he wants this fight.

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