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  • Laligalaliga
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    I wish he was simply of the mindset...I can't wait to whoop Wilder's azz and become undisputed heavyweight champion. Instead, it's about money.
    Wilder should have said fcck off the X7 my regular pay, lemme go to UK and KO AJ.
    I wish he had such mind set.

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    • P4Pdunny
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      #62
      Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
      Seriously though, American / Wilder fans seem to totally disregard how this went down. My only explanation for that is that he (Wilder) has been more vocal and done more trolling. But there's actually no substance to what he says. Can you have a genuine look at the points below and tell me something..., not being a **** just interested to know how AJ is the bad guy here? These are FACTS.

      Wilder didn't respond to offers.

      Asked AJ to accept a fight over social media but would not show Hearn / Joshua any terms.

      Would not travel to UK for Joshua V Parker.

      Would not show up in NYC when Hearn went there to make the fight. Neither did any of his several 'promoters'.

      Held on to a written offer sent and would not even speak or respond - KNOWING that time was running out for Joshua.

      Currently has a ****ing signed offer for Wembley to fight AJ in 2019, won't sign it.

      The current talk out of their respective mouths is ....

      AJ saying "great, he beats Fury it makes it even bigger"

      and Wilder...

      "I'll never fight AJ".

      Let's put allegiances aside and see this for what it is.

      Some people can't tell the difference between Wilder trolling and an actual professional approach and desire to make the fight. Wilder has decided to price himself out of it cos he wants no part of Joshua. They should film the negotiations, if anyone can get Wilder / Finkel to the table.
      I think your getting me twisted here. I'm not American, I like Wilder but I prefer AJ a whole lot more. I also said they're both at fault, the points you've raised are arguably even stronger in the favour of AJ.

      Why I say I'm not sure he's all that interested in this fight is because he initially was saying that he would rather fight somewhere down the line even as far as 2020. If he has to fight Wilder, he'll do it but I don't think he's keen on it currently.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #63
        Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
        Those guys other than KLIT wouldn't be in the top 25 HW,,'s in the real HW era. Both JOSHUA and WILDER need each other badly for the sake of HW respectability in this era. Got it?
        Every era is unique in its own way.
        Boxing will be meaningless if we start comparing era's.
        For the fact that one does not like AJ, wilder, whyte or Fury doesn't make the division shiiit.
        We have decent fighters in the division that can compete in any other past division era's.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #64
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder's legacy will be secured in the history-books once 'Bombsquad' sparks Jigglypuff for the HW lineage ; Joshua will from that point be considered only a contender in Wilders division.


          Go fight Usyk or your mandatory chicken.
          Your champ is hiding under 50/50 or no fight.. Let him man up and sign the gaddemn contract for crying out loud.
          Always chasing unfit fighters like a begger.

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            We can stop with the "he's coming back from a three-year layoff..." stuff now. He's 30-yrs. old, and has had 2 training camps and 2 fights, and now entering his 3rd training camp! He's not where he used to be, and he may never be what he used to be, and even that version wasn't all that! It was good enough to beat an older version of Klitschko, and AJ beat an even older (and inactive) version of Klitschko!
            Lastly, yes "there's enough for everybody to eat," and there always was (even more if you brought your ass to Las Vegas) but you wasn't trying to share, and that's why you're fighting Povetkn and not Wilder!
            Wilder can do us a favor to come to the UK. How about that?

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            • Estar
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              #66
              Wilder has used Joshua's profile to promote himself. Fair enough on that, it has worked.

              I don't want to hear about the $50m offer again, it was a fake offer. They knew Joshua is contracted to Sky Box Office so can't fight on BT Sports. Therefore they had no intention of it coming through. They refused to meet with Hearn when he was in the USA and wanted them to accept within 24 hours.

              Matchroom's offers were real, but I understand why Wilder's team turned them down. They will earn more money next year if he beats Fury. The Fury fight must of been earmarked as soon as Wilder's team started talking to Warren and BT Sports. This was mid way through negotiations it looks like with Wilder-Joshua. The date/venue delay of the contract looks ****** now there isn't one for Wilder v Fury yet.

              Wilder is taking a bit of a gamble with the Fury fight hoping he isn't ready. He will boost his promotion and will trial PPV. If his PPV numbers are good he can demand more from Hearn.

              People keep talking about Barry Hearn's interview. He was giving his opinion and has nothing to do with the decisions in boxing for Matchroom as he stated. He also says Finkle wanted to cash out. I could see that happening with Haymon cancelling him out.

              Let's be honest the fight will be much bigger next year. As impatient as we are with fans both Wilder's and Joshua's profile is poor in the USA. The majority of the money would be coming from the UK market unless Wilder can bring USA PPV.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #67
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                Wilder can do us a favor to come to the UK. How about that?
                He'll be coming soon, either in a rematch with Fury, or for Joshua for no less than 35% of the total revenue! The disrespectful flat-fee offer is a thing of the past!

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                • Ake-Dawg
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                  So...basically you've got nothing.

                  You KNOW every part is true, and could not select a single part for critique.

                  If you're blue collar, and you voted for Trump, that'll explain things somewhat. You're easily fooled.
                  No, I meant that. Literally, none of what you said is true. How about use google and read a few more boxing articles to get the facts.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Wilder should have said fcck off the X7 my regular pay, lemme go to UK and KO AJ.
                    I wish he had such mind set.
                    Last I checked, he did, there was this thing where the contract didn't guarantee that Wilder would be Joshua's next fight.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      He'll be coming soon, either in a rematch with Fury, or for Joshua for no less than 35% of the total revenue! The disrespectful flat-fee offer is a thing of the past!
                      I cans see you are more interested in the % wilder gets than the fight itself.
                      Meanwhile, flat rate is not new to wilder. All his career, he has been on flat rate, so what's new about been offered X7 of his regular?

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