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  • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
    I saw that too. I think it's crazy it isn't being talked about more how RIGHT before each of their career's biggest fights, Canelo and Ward suddenly sprouted the thickest necks I have ever seen, and it took them a year tops, maybe just months. If you look at pictures of Andre Ward, his neck is literally as wide as his head now. You can draw a straight line from the side of Ward's cheek straight down to his neck. Ward also developed bad back acne for the first time in his career at the exact same time.

    Most dangerous opponent? Check.
    Unnatural muscle growth over very short time? Check.
    Fake retirement during that time with zero drug testing? Check.
    Development of back acne for first time at age 32 years old during the fake retirement? Check.
    Missing the contractually mandated deadline to restart drug testing before the rematch? Check.

    Every sign of steroids in the book. And yet no one says a thing. Breadman who is supposed to be anti-PEDs even said in his column that Andre Ward is his fighter of the decade for beating slow, previously beaten Froch, and past prime drunk Kovalev (controversially and with every sign PED use). He says Ward's two elite wins (yeah right) during this decade are more than anyone else has (which wouldn't even be true even if you counted the Froch and Kovalev wins as elite. Chocolatito? Lomachenko? Heck, if we're completely discounting the state the opponents were in, then surely Floyd's wins over Canelo and Pacquiao during this decade are better? Which is exactly why you SHOULD pay attention to the state of the opponent, like Canelo being drained and Pac being past prime. But the point is if Breadman is going to ignore the state of Kovalev when Ward fought him, then he should give Floyd and his wins the same ignorant benefit of the doubt).

    In any case, apparently in modern boxing, fighting one good opponent every 5 years, aka two per decade, is now something worth praising and giving awards out over (neither being an elite PRIME opponent either).

    As for Canelo, his neck is actually not as blatant as Ward's is at this point, but I agree with you, it's still *****ing obvious. I think that's the reason every big fight goes to decision these days. Punchers are being fazed out of boxing at the top level of the sport because at the top level, the opponent can just load up on PEDs, and the newest ones seem to massively improve your punch resistance. Canelo was hurt more by Miguel Cotto's brother, and possibly even by Floyd, than he was by GGG. You can find pictures where GGG lands punches square on Canelo's chin, but when you watch the fight it never looks like anything is landing square on Canelo because every punch just bounces off Canelo's huge head as if the punch only glanced, except it didn't. It's just that Canelo's huge neck and head are overpowering the impact of the punch rather than the impact of the punch overpowering Canelo's head and neck, which is what is generally needed to produce a knockout.

    So, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another knockout in a superfight for the next 10 years either, discounting **** like Wilder-Fury when Fury is not back in shape and his punch resistance is probably shot to **** after all the ******* use and binge eating. The only genuine big fight with a good chance of KO is Joshua-Wilder, but even there I bet we will see both of them respond inhumanely to big punches, just like Wilder did vs Ortiz, the same Wilder who was hurt badly in the amateurs with headgear on by much smaller punches than Ortiz wearing much more padded gloves.

    But once they go pro and use those new designer PEDs, seems like nothing can hurt them. Did you see the PBC card on friday? Clark got countered with a huge shot on the chin he didn't see, knocked out of the ring headfirst, but he was conscious and back to his feet, WITH STEADY LEGS, about 2 seconds later. And it happened throughout the fight with him. Massive shots absolutely turnstyling his chin (because while he is also on PEDs in my opinion, he is much taller for his weight than Canelo so he wasn't able to build a huge neck), and you can see the brain going out for a second, but that's all. A second later, it's back on. The oxygen in the brain or whatever just flooding back immediately. It's next to impossible to hurt a guy and keep him out of it for a full ten count if all these guys have access to PEDs now that make the brain recover in one tenth of that time. It really needs to be the perfect punch, but when none of these big fights happen until the B-side's reflexes are on the decline, the chances of the B-side landing that perfect punch when his reflexes are now much slower than the guy he's fighting is slim to none.

    That's why boxing is such a joke now. I always hope for the next fight to be different, but it never is. They always keep it 100% the same in order to keep the money coming in. Cant even sacrifice one single money grab to bring a little integrity back to the sport.
    This is just a rant and a speculative one with no merit.

    I have slept with Many women in my time with thick shoulders and some acne doesn’t mean they were on PED. Ward for that training session carried out specific t****zius exercises. Even neck/ chin exercises which supposedly is meant to heighten resistance in absorbing a punch. However, who cares he was never caught cheating and from my vantage point in terms of his 30 + fights he actually looked less convincing in terms of movement, explosiveness against Kovalev . So the PED that you claim he took did what? The first Ward vs Kovalev fight was similar to the second only Ward caught him cleanly in the second. You are reaching . Canelo you have substantiate evidence why don’t you stay in that lane and campaign at foul play. Leave SOG out of the silly arguments

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    • Originally posted by KO MX View Post
      Reported for incite hatred
      Get a life gumbo....its boxing not a ******* ********ic conference lol

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      • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
        Because he's fighting one of the top white boxers in the world. Ever notice how any time anyone is a threat to beat Lomachenko, Kovalev, GGG, or any top white fighter in the world, that fighter suddenly gains a lot of fans? There is a segment of boxing fans out there that only roots for black fighters, and hates white fighters, or views all white fighters as hype jobs created by the "racist white media" (as if "white people" actually run the media in the U.S., not another subgroup of people that often has white skin but does not necessarily identify as white).

        I mean, if you haven't noticed, white people have sort of become the most hated race of people in the world. Or to put it another way, the one race you're allowed to openly hate and be racist towards, which obviously contributes to that. It's even encouraged by the media, which might have everything to do with the group that DOES occupy over 90% of leadership positions in the American and Western media trying to play all the different races against each other as sort of a way to divide and conquer everyone else. Make everyone you wrongly perceive as your enemy hate each other and fight among themselves, leaving you unobstructed to grab all the power and rule over them all.

        So basically, white vs black bull**** is pushed all the time in the American media. There is a vocal subgroup of black boxing fans who hate white fighters like GGG, so obviously they will root for Canelo no matter what. They probably celebrated when they heard Canelo might be using steroids to beat GGG. And then you add in the fact that Canelo was already the most popular Mexican fighter, and it gives him two fanbases to pull from. A certain percentage may have stopped supporting him after the failed tests, but even if that was 25% of his fans, which would be a lot, being able to pull 75% from not one but TWO fanbases means you will still have 50% more fans than someone who maintains 100% of only one fanbase.
        I do not know about all that but what I do know is that if Lomachenko or GGG was British they would be supported universally more around the world. The fact that they are foreign yet still have a huge fan bases is credit to them.

        Canelo vs Chavez how many PPV did it do? You can’t downplay when a fighter has a nation/ country on his back, and compare it to 100 boxingscene subscribers that may or may not have an agenda

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        • Meant it as a generalization. The other wouldn’t apply. THINK. Grow up. Stop being lazy with the racism garbage. Canelo doesn’t even find this racist. Otherwise, there’d be a new shi tty headline

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          • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
            Lol, Triple g on some bullshet now!
            He needs to focus on the fight and stop worrying about the fans now cause I got a feeling he'll be tasting the canvas for the first time in his career. Not saying he'll get knocked out but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets dropped... I can see both guys getting dropped this next fight.
            And for all the Triple g nuttriders who say Canelo hit Triple g with everything he had in the first fight and Triple g still kept coming well so what? That was then, this is now.
            Triple g is still a man and he can be dropped/knocked out just like any other man if he gets hit at the right time on the right spot..
            WAR CANELO!
            Clenyellow couldn't do it juiced, hes much smaller by every pic I've seen, but now he's going to drop him, is this dejavu, didn't you say that for the first fight

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            • Originally posted by Vegemil View Post
              Golovkin makes my thing hard and he's a clean boxer so I agree with his statement.
              Watch Golovkin’s greatest knockouts . You might not know much of the fighters but you may climax if you close your eyes

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              • Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post
                I guess Golovkin is being promotional. But I don't know, I liked him better when he kept his mouth shut about other fighters and took the high road.

                Clenbuterol in Mexican beef is a real thing. It is possible that the Canelo team simply made an honest mistake. It's happened to lots of Mexican athletes. Golovkin should recognize this and let it go. Shut up already.

                I consider Oscar and GoldenBoy to be scumbags, but Golovkin shouldn't care one way or another.
                Then why didn't Canelo and his team issue an apology to Golovkin and K2 if it was a mistake? A simple apology could have gone a long way to mend fences. But no he had to play the Diva. He didn't man up and do the right thing so now he's paying the price. He didn't even attend the NSAC disciplinary hearing. He deserves everything that team Golovkin is saying so he should just shut up and stop crying. Hopefully Golovkin knocks him out and rids boxing of this cancer.

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                • Originally posted by Sktherealdeal View Post
                  Before that happens Clenelo would have tasted the canvass countless times.
                  Maybe.... Maybe not. We'll find out September 15.

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                  • Golovkin is right, fake people support Clenelo, real fans support GGG!

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                    • Originally posted by Dbt View Post
                      IMO they know it bothers Canelo, so they're going to keep jabbing him with it.

                      The angrier Canelo gets the more likely he'll fight GGGs fight. Seems that way to me
                      Exactly. I dont know why people fail to see that. G has been in canelo’s head now for months, no reason to let up now.

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