Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Fake People Support Canelo; Real People Support Me

[Sktherealdeal]

Let's admit that Canelo handled the scandal very poorly PR-wise, and at this point G has lost respect to Canelo and his team. Had Canelo made a call to G admitting he f@cked up the May 5 date, but let's get past it, G would have welcomed it. Instead Canelo apologised to everyone except G, he and his team have been trying their best to blame G and present him as some sort of vigilante. This is a dirty game GBP and Canelo are playing, and Canelo is too young to realise he could have handled the scandal better.

You are spon ON brother.

[Sktherealdeal]

IMO they know it bothers Canelo, so they're going to keep jabbing him with it.

The angrier Canelo gets the more likely he'll fight GGGs fight. Seems that way to me

You got the scope, they want him to trade and the best way to get him do that his anger him more so he comes to fight and not run like the last boring time.

[b00g13man]

IMO they know it bothers Canelo, so they're going to keep jabbing him with it.

The angrier Canelo gets the more likely he'll fight GGGs fight. Seems that way to me

That's a possibility I hadn't considered tbh and if that's really what they're doing, more power to them.

[PunchyPotorff]

GGG talks about Canelo listening to his people, yet here's GGG listening to the promoter tell him "sell those damn tickets".

LOL

I guess all's fair in the end. This will be a great fight, more action than the 1st one, but IMO only Canelo will have improved. And I'm leaning toward Canelo getting a UD win. GGG hasn't even addressed his mistakes last time or admitted to them. It is still a bit of a wild card how it ends up, but I have confidence Canelo will see it through.

[Golden Boi 360]

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[SteveM]

Canelo would not have ducked Derevyanchenko, like Fakekin did

But he's got no history of dropping belts?

[Finito2K]

No he's not.

He's a Soviet Kazakh who's father is Russian and mother is Asian.

He's half white and half Asian, not just Asian.

He also looks white/Russian, so he's white. That's how people see color.

Like Ward is half white, half black, but he looks black, so he is not accepted by white folk as one of theirs. GGG is accepted because he looks the part.

Kazakhstan is located in Central Asia. Seriously.

[-Kev-]

Kazakhstan is located in Central Asia. Seriously.

Do you understand what Soviet Kazakh is and what it is to have a Russian father?

You said he's Asian.

He is not, he is White/Asian, due to his white father and Asian mother.

I am not talking about the technical geographical location of where he was born. I'm talking about what's in his actual dna. He is a white/Asian man, not just Asian.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Never heard the Ward story here, but anyone who built his career off of straightness up cheating in the ring wouldn’t hesitate for a second to cheat out of it.

I don’t even rate Ward that high because he was allowed to foul, why hi so opponents were not even allowed to complain about it.

I saw that too. I think it's crazy it isn't being talked about more how RIGHT before each of their career's biggest fights, Canelo and Ward suddenly sprouted the thickest necks I have ever seen, and it took them a year tops, maybe just months. If you look at pictures of Andre Ward, his neck is literally as wide as his head now. You can draw a straight line from the side of Ward's cheek straight down to his neck. Ward also developed bad back acne for the first time in his career at the exact same time.

Most dangerous opponent? Check.
Unnatural muscle growth over very short time? Check.
Fake retirement during that time with zero drug testing? Check.
Development of back acne for first time at age 32 years old during the fake retirement? Check.
Missing the contractually mandated deadline to restart drug testing before the rematch? Check.

Every sign of steroids in the book. And yet no one says a thing. Breadman who is supposed to be anti-PEDs even said in his column that Andre Ward is his fighter of the decade for beating slow, previously beaten Froch, and past prime drunk Kovalev (controversially and with every sign PED use). He says Ward's two elite wins (yeah right) during this decade are more than anyone else has (which wouldn't even be true even if you counted the Froch and Kovalev wins as elite. Chocolatito? Lomachenko? Heck, if we're completely discounting the state the opponents were in, then surely Floyd's wins over Canelo and Pacquiao during this decade are better? Which is exactly why you SHOULD pay attention to the state of the opponent, like Canelo being drained and Pac being past prime. But the point is if Breadman is going to ignore the state of Kovalev when Ward fought him, then he should give Floyd and his wins the same ignorant benefit of the doubt).

In any case, apparently in modern boxing, fighting one good opponent every 5 years, aka two per decade, is now something worth praising and giving awards out over (neither being an elite PRIME opponent either).

As for Canelo, his neck is actually not as blatant as Ward's is at this point, but I agree with you, it's still *****ing obvious. I think that's the reason every big fight goes to decision these days. Punchers are being fazed out of boxing at the top level of the sport because at the top level, the opponent can just load up on PEDs, and the newest ones seem to massively improve your punch resistance. Canelo was hurt more by Miguel Cotto's brother, and possibly even by Floyd, than he was by GGG. You can find pictures where GGG lands punches square on Canelo's chin, but when you watch the fight it never looks like anything is landing square on Canelo because every punch just bounces off Canelo's huge head as if the punch only glanced, except it didn't. It's just that Canelo's huge neck and head are overpowering the impact of the punch rather than the impact of the punch overpowering Canelo's head and neck, which is what is generally needed to produce a knockout.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another knockout in a superfight for the next 10 years either, discounting **** like Wilder-Fury when Fury is not back in shape and his punch resistance is probably shot to **** after all the ******* use and binge eating. The only genuine big fight with a good chance of KO is Joshua-Wilder, but even there I bet we will see both of them respond inhumanely to big punches, just like Wilder did vs Ortiz, the same Wilder who was hurt badly in the amateurs with headgear on by much smaller punches than Ortiz wearing much more padded gloves.

But once they go pro and use those new designer PEDs, seems like nothing can hurt them. Did you see the PBC card on friday? Clark got countered with a huge shot on the chin he didn't see, knocked out of the ring headfirst, but he was conscious and back to his feet, WITH STEADY LEGS, about 2 seconds later. And it happened throughout the fight with him. Massive shots absolutely turnstyling his chin (because while he is also on PEDs in my opinion, he is much taller for his weight than Canelo so he wasn't able to build a huge neck), and you can see the brain going out for a second, but that's all. A second later, it's back on. The oxygen in the brain or whatever just flooding back immediately. It's next to impossible to hurt a guy and keep him out of it for a full ten count if all these guys have access to PEDs now that make the brain recover in one tenth of that time. It really needs to be the perfect punch, but when none of these big fights happen until the B-side's reflexes are on the decline, the chances of the B-side landing that perfect punch when his reflexes are now much slower than the guy he's fighting is slim to none.

That's why boxing is such a joke now. I always hope for the next fight to be different, but it never is. They always keep it 100% the same in order to keep the money coming in. Cant even sacrifice one single money grab to bring a little integrity back to the sport.

[iamboxing]

not a good PR move, calling Canelo fans fake...gotta respect all the people paying for the fight