Should Fast Eddie Have Seen The Okey-Doke Coming?

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  • killakali
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    #21
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    AJ goes from having two massive options to one massive option.

    AJ goes from having incredible leverage with both massive options to far less leverage with the one massive option.

    Wilder and Fury likely fight a rematch next year, and possibly a trilogy fight if they split the first two fights. While AJ is stuck in mandatory purgatory.

    AJ can only keep his momentum for so long if all of the most interesting heavyweight fights don't involve him.
    lol he’s making 20 mil a fight for the Parker’s and Povetkins of the world. Meanwhile Wilder-Fury does 250k ppv buys and neither guy makes as much as AJ does.

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      #22
      Not sure I understand how Hearn got screwed? He never wanted Joshua to fight Wilder now anyway. When you can make boatloads of money taking way less risk, why would you take the biggest risk of all? You wouldn't until absolutely neccessary.

      Joshua can fight Whyte again, Miller, Ortiz, or anyone else and sell out stadiums. And if Fury wins against Wilder then decides to fight him, he makes way more money then he would have fighting Wilder anyway. Wilder wins and that fight becomes even bigger.

      No lose situation for Hearn and Joshua really.

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        #23
        Originally posted by killakali
        lol he’s making 20 mil a fight for the Parker’s and Povetkins of the world. Meanwhile Wilder-Fury does 250k ppv buys and neither guy makes as much as AJ does.
        And?

        Good for AJ.

        The problem for him will be, how does he continue to build momentum if there is a long stretch where he's not involved in any of the most intriguing heavyweight fights?

        Where are the threads about Povetkin? Nowhere to be seen. While the site is flooded with Wilder and Fury discussion.

        AJ vs Whyte II is a big fight in the UK and nowhere else. If Wilder and Fury have a series of fights, they'll be the ones capturing the attention of world boxing, not AJ. At some point his fans will grow frustrated if he's not fighting any of the people they want to see him fight most.

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          #24
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          his "incredible leverage" sure didnt help get the Wilder fight made, so not sure how much weight that carries.
          It helped him get incredibly favorable terms, but in the end Hearn still didn't want to take the risk yet. Doesn't change the fact that AJ had more leverage when he had a choice of Fury or Wilder.

          Of course AJ is still in a good spot, just not as good of a spot as he'd have been in if Wilder and Fury didn't agree to fight each other.

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            #25
            Well it will raise the profile of a wilder aj fight for all the marbles. The only thing he possibly loses is a fury vs aj fight which woulda brought in some $$$. I suppose he coulda tried to fight fury first, at which point all the posters here celebrating wilder for getting the fury fight would be tearing aj apart for taking it.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              AJ goes from having two massive options to one massive option.

              AJ goes from having incredible leverage with both massive options to far less leverage with the one massive option.

              Wilder and Fury likely fight a rematch next year, and possibly a trilogy fight if they split the first two fights. While AJ is stuck in mandatory purgatory.

              AJ can only keep his momentum for so long if all of the most interesting heavyweight fights don't involve him.
              This in a nutshell.

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                #27
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                AJ goes from having two massive options to one massive option.

                AJ goes from having incredible leverage with both massive options to far less leverage with the one massive option.

                Wilder and Fury likely fight a rematch next year, and possibly a trilogy fight if they split the first two fights. While AJ is stuck in mandatory purgatory.

                AJ can only keep his momentum for so long if all of the most interesting heavyweight fights don't involve him.
                Spot on.

                If Tyson wins, he lost his chance to fight an undefeated American champion.

                If Wilder wins, he lost his chance to defeat the 'lineal' HW champion who is / was also undefeated.

                Hearn should not have expected this as none of us probably expected this fight to happen so soon and out of nowhere. Hearn is biting his pillow in frustration now though because Fish Eyes got one over him.

                This isn't even adding the bad publicity / egg on face he and AJ are getting now.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                  Spot on.

                  If Tyson wins, he lost his chance to fight an undefeated American champion.

                  If Wilder wins, he lost his chance to defeat the 'lineal' HW champion who is / was also undefeated.

                  Hearn should not have expected this as none of us probably expected this fight to happen so soon and out of nowhere. Hearn is biting his pillow in frustration now though because Fish Eyes got one over him.

                  This isn't even adding the bad publicity / egg on face he and AJ are getting now.
                  Bingo.

                  No matter how you slice it, Matchroom cost themselves money screwing around.

                  The AJ vs Wilder fight might get bigger, true.
                  The AJ vs Fury fight as well.

                  But, neither one fight will be as much money as if AJ had been able to face both while both were undefeated.

                  Furthermore, as has already been stated, the winner will ask for 50/50 and public sentiment will agree with it. Hell, in a good fight the loser can ask for it too.

                  AJ is looking at the same backlash Canelo faced when he didn't immediately fight GGG after the Cotto fight.

                  And AJ is not nearly as big a star as Canelo- and the British base, while loyal, are also acutely allergic to bullshyt over an extended period.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Madison
                    i dont understand how this is some pie in the face for eddie hearn. joshua fights the winner late 2019 for even more money. team joshua will be making plenty of money before then too, dont worry about that pal
                    Tbh if fury wins they really are laughing especially if they want to run with the idea of aj and Hearn being scared of Deontay

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                    • killakali
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      And?

                      Good for AJ.

                      The problem for him will be, how does he continue to build momentum if there is a long stretch where he's not involved in any of the most intriguing heavyweight fights?

                      Where are the threads about Povetkin? Nowhere to be seen. While the site is flooded with Wilder and Fury discussion.

                      AJ vs Whyte II is a big fight in the UK and nowhere else. If Wilder and Fury have a series of fights, they'll be the ones capturing the attention of world boxing, not AJ. At some point his fans will grow frustrated if he's not fighting any of the people they want to see him fight most.
                      there likely won’t be a series of fights. Have Unseen any Fury fights? Most are as boring as watching dry. Win or lose it’s highly doubtful there will be any calls for a rematch

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