Dedicated, unbiased thread regarding the current heavyweight landscape.

[Clegg]

When did Joyce join Haymon? Wasn't aware of that.

We'll find out soon enough but I have heard both Brezeale and Ortiz potentially joining matchroom (DAZN) recently , let's see if they actually hAppen.

I've heard the rumours about DB but not Ortiz and I'd be surprised if he went back to Hearn. If he stays where he is and waits he gets a WBC shot in 12-18 months. If he goes to Hearn, there's AJ, Miller, Whyte who don't want to fight him.

[famicommander]

Wilder
Joshua
Ortiz
Pulev
Povetkin
Whyte
Miller
Breazeale
Chisora
Parker

[Boksfan]

I've heard the rumours about DB but not Ortiz and I'd be surprised if he went back to Hearn. If he stays where he is and waits he gets a WBC shot in 12-18 months. If he goes to Hearn, there's AJ, Miller, Whyte who don't want to fight him.

Maybe Hearn can offer him more?

[Idunnoshet]

The WBSS won't happen but would be awesome if it did. In reality the only person who could get this sort of thing going would be Hearn and you actually aren't as far offf as you think making this happen if he really wants.

Anthony Joshua - match room

Dillion Whyte - match room

Dereck Chisora - match room

Joesph Parker - already proven he can work with match room

Dominic Brezeale - indications he could be joining match room shortly

Joe Joyce - quite possible David Haye would work with matchroom in collaboration

Luis Ortiz - not inconceivable he could work with matchroom as already rumored over last several weeks they approached Eddie Hearn

Tony Bellew - matchroom

Jarrell Miller - matchroom

Povetkin, fury (x2), wilder - not sure?

For sure he could pull some other fringe top20 if needed but with those names you could see Eddie getting if he wanted he could really make a huge event. Would wilder, fury, etc not want to be part of it if he really got it working?

I obviously have no idea if he is even thinking about it but it would be a huge marketing appeal to both sky sports and DAZN !

I seriously doubt Ortiz would Go Back to Matchroom after Hearn already signed him once with the sole reason of keeping him Away from AJ.

[Kezzer]

I seriously doubt Ortiz would Go Back to Matchroom after Hearn already signed him once with the sole reason of keeping him Away from AJ.

I know a lot of people seem to not believe it but it was repeated for months on end the plan? Everybody knew the route Joshua was taking and that Ortiz was next in line. Ortiz left and chose to take on wilder instead.

We don't really know the real relationship other than Ortiz looked really poor in his fights with matchroom and top10 at best.

[sicko]

I like the Idea of a WBSS...but without AJ and Wilder! Those two need to sort out the BS and make that fight! They don't need "More Time" and they don't need to build it up anymore than it already is. Loser just get a rematch and if the 1st fight is Good the Rematch will be EVEN BIGGER! Losing in the heavyweight division means nothing, Ortiz and Whyte are more popular now than they was before losing. The Comeback Story is better and far more entertaining than the Undefeated Story.

A Heavyweight WBSS would be great for the rising contenders who are not as known yet like grabbing: Adam Kownacki, Trevor Bryan, Joe Joyce, Hughie Fury, Agit Kabayel, Otto Wallin guys like that and let them fight it out for a shot at AJ or Wilder!

[Pat bateman]

i understand what youre saying but im just being realistic. the way splits work are what you bring the table financially and theres a huge disparity between wilder and joshua. i didnt see mayweather throwing out 50/50 splits for people either out of the kindness of his own heart, its not the way it works. i think the problem is a lot of americans (probably a lot of mayweather fans) arent used to being the ones on the other side of it

I understand where your coming from bro i just get tired of all this talk of purse percentages etc just want to see the fights at heavy happen before it all stagnates like the may pac situation.

[Pat bateman]

Looks like it already turned into a fanboy thread.

I think Fury Wilder is a very intriguing fight with Fury being the main reason. The dude is an enigma in some fights I see him literally boxing in a way somebody his size should never be able to do but in others he flops hard. I think he fights to his competition which is dangerous early on against someone like Wilder. In top form his hand speed is a genuine threat but the layoff really did a number on him (No excuses there).

Wilder on the other hand is a proven entity. A real knockout artist who's been slowly improving his boxing skill. The only opponent he's ever not knocked out he avenged in the first round. He gets hate for the Ortiz fight but got tested and passed it. Showed his heart. Seems like a dedicated athlete in shape all the time so could press the action for the 12 rounds.

Now the winner of this fight vs. Joshua. Tyson Fury has a much easier time against Joshua than Wilder does. While the Fury Wilder fight may be 50/50, Fury would be the only one able to neutralize Joshua's robotic offense. Wilder could knock him out in spectacular fashion but also runs the risk of getting knocked out himself.

Overall the heavyweight division right now is good but not great.

Great post vege, indepth view of each fight and the possible outcomes. Agree with all of it.

[Madison Boxing]

I understand where your coming from bro i just get tired of all this talk of purse percentages etc just want to see the fights at heavy happen before it all stagnates like the may pac situation.

fair enough mate, yea i wish negotations were more simple.