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  • Pat bateman
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    Dedicated, unbiased thread regarding the current heavyweight landscape.

    This thread is for posters who are unbiased aren't internet accountants or obsessed fanboys.

    The amount of rubbish threads on here this morning is sickening. so many aj fanboys spewing shat about the wilder/fury situation.

    I want to discuss the ramifications of potential match ups and the future onwards. feel free to use this thread to express opinions in a logical & coherent manner.

    I foresee wilder fury being a great fight fury raises his game against dangerous punchers see wlad fight.
    Now i know fury isnt 100% right now but times a great healer.

    Wilder has that right hand equaliser but can fury nullify it and reduce wilder to being a one handed fighter for 12 rounds? Im not so sure and currently see it as a 50/50 fight.

    The winner should rightfully fight aj if he gets through povetkin unscathed. But hearn/boxing politics could prevent or delay this match up which leaves a dilemma of two champs at heavyweight.

    Alot of flip flopping and bias could be stopped by having a single dominant champion. I propose a wbss heavyweight tournament to verify who is truly the best fighter.

    I have no idea who will emerge above the rest but i am intrigued and look forward to the continuous revealing of who is top dog at heavy over the next year or so.
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    we dont need a wbss. all we need is wilder to be realistic about what he brings to the table financially (not a lot) and accept hearns offer.

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    • juggernaut666
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      #3
      If Hearn was telling Wilder and Fury to demand 50% you would certainly have a strong case .

      However Hearn is not asking them to do that so the burden on fighting Joshua is on those two knuckle heads bc only they can decide to make things difficult or not , Hearn cannot force them to sign a contract ,one has already agreed to one but refused to sign !

      A heavyweight tournament doesnt work unless theres incentive for losers bc its the main division where fighters sit and wait for title shots .

      Id like to see a mini tournament outside top 10 where the winner gets put in a top 10 spot .

      But a tournament with top 10 guys is almost going to be to difficult with in a HW division _
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 08-19-2018, 08:59 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Patrick B
        This thread is for posters who are unbiased aren't internet accountants or obsessed fanboys.

        The amount of rubbish threads on here this morning is sickening. so many aj fanboys spewing shat about the wilder/fury situation.

        I want to discuss the ramifications of potential match ups and the future onwards. feel free to use this thread to express opinions in a logical & coherent manner.

        I foresee wilder fury being a great fight fury raises his game against dangerous punchers see wlad fight.
        Now i know fury isnt 100% right now but times a great healer.

        Wilder has that right hand equaliser but can fury nullify it and reduce wilder to being a one handed fighter for 12 rounds? Im not so sure and currently see it as a 50/50 fight.

        The winner should rightfully fight aj if he gets through povetkin unscathed. But hearn/boxing politics could prevent or delay this match up which leaves a dilemma of two champs at heavyweight.

        Alot of flip flopping and bias could be stopped by having a single dominant champion. I propose a wbss heavyweight tournament to verify who is truly the best fighter.

        I have no idea who will emerge above the rest but i am intrigued and look forward to the continuous revealing of who is top dog at heavy over the next year or so.
        Messed up. I like where your thread was going with the whole unbiased observer thing .
        Unfortunately your thread got tainted with the first two replies coming from the biggest Fanboys on NSB.

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        • Zn1
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          #5
          Originally posted by The Madison
          we dont need a wbss. all we need is wilder to be realistic about what he brings to the table financially (not a lot) and accept hearns offer.
          BOOM!

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          • Pat bateman
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            #6
            Originally posted by The Madison
            we dont need a wbss. all we need is wilder to be realistic about what he brings to the table financially (not a lot) and accept hearns offer.
            Hearns not risking his life/legacy in the ring. Wilder knows hearn is greedy and above all a business man. With heavily vested interests in his own fighter aj. Infact if hearn didnt have aj as his golden goose he wouldn't be in a position to negotiate.

            You forgot ajs brand has been manufactured from the get go since the Olympics. He is only worth the inflated hype from skys Marketing prowess. Him vs wilder should be 50/50 straight down the middle both undefeated and both are world champions.

            This thread isnt about accepting what hearn offers as he's never fought a day in his life *** his influence.

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            • Pat bateman
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              #7
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              If Hearn was telling Wilder and Fury to demand 50% you would certainly have a strong case .

              However Hearn is not asking them to do that so the burden on fighting Joshua is on those two knuckle heads bc only they can decide to make things difficult or not , Hearn cannot force them to sign a contract ,one has already agreed to one but refused to sign !

              A heavyweight tournament doesnt work unless theres incentive for losers bc its the main division where fighters sit and wait for title shots .

              Id like to see a mini tournament outside top 10 where the winner gets put in a top 10 spot .

              But a tournament with top 10 guys is almost going to be to difficult with in a HW division _
              Why should hearn decide what happens to the heavyweight landscape he lucked into getting a heavily marketed fighter in aj. And ni that's not an excuse if there are contenders sitting around waiting for a shot the onus is on them they should go and demand a chance or fight for it in a tournament.

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              • Boksfan
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                #8
                I wouldn't mind wbss for heavyweight, we could finally determine undisputed.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Patrick B
                  Hearns not risking his life/legacy in the ring. Wilder knows hearn is greedy and above all a business man. With heavily vested interests in his own fighter aj. Infact if hearn didnt have aj as his golden goose he wouldn't be in a position to negotiate.

                  You forgot ajs brand has been manufactured from the get go since the Olympics. He is only worth the inflated hype from skys Marketing prowess. Him vs wilder should be 50/50 straight down the middle both undefeated and both are world champions.

                  This thread isnt about accepting what hearn offers as he's never fought a day in his life *** his influence.
                  no it shouldnt be 50/50 lol, hearn runs a business, if you start giving fighters unrealistic amounts as a one off then every one of the future opponents for the rest of his stable are also going to ask for unrealistic amounts. You dont have one man earning 20 mill a fight and one man earning 2 mill a fight and pay them the same amount when they come together. And did parker deserve 50/50 then cause he was an undefeated champ too?

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                  • Randall Cunning
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                    #10
                    Itll never happen. WBSS has to work around the politics, and get the best it can come up with. Youll never get a division with a big draw in it, youll never get an Arum, Golden Boy, PBC, fighter in it. Heavyweight, 160, 154 and 147 will never have a WBSS.

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