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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Hmmm, I would think that this DUCK would understand it when he reads what was stated but I was asking too much from a DUCK!!!!


    Sorry about that DUCKard. I must have strained your DUCK brain too much. Now I am starting to understand why you misinterpret almost everything that you read!






    Whenever Google is able to translate it to DUCK language, I will definitely give you a call .




    UNTIL THEN

    The ONLY CALL that YOU KNOW OF is


    QUACK!!!!!!!






    THAT'S THE BEST YOU GOT? UNDERSTAND WHAT???


    YOUR OWN DAMN INFORMATION SAID RUMORS THAT COULDN'T BE CORROBORATED, AND YOUR THEORY OF "CHEAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WITH EPO DURING EVERY DAMN TRAINING CAMP" MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY IF HE IS ALLOWED TO CHEAT AS MUCH AS HE WANT DURING EVERY TRAINING CAMP AND GOT AWAY WITH IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS, WHY THE FVVCK WOULD HE SUDDENLY NEED AN IV. THEN AFTER THE FIGHT HE ALSO PASSES NO PROBLEM WITHOUT HIS MICRODOSE????


    DO YOU EVEN HAVE A BRAIN???? LOG THE FVVCCK OFF. I TOLD YOU GUYS THIS FOOL IS AN ABSOLUTE MORON!!!!!!

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    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      Only banned if it's not for a legitimate medical treatment. If it's for a legitimate medical treatment, you turn over the medical information and ask for an exemption. If the exemption is granted, that means the method was allowable.

      1) Floyd/Ellerbe went on record and said it was just dehydration.



      2) The head of the WADA TUEC Committee and who is also a doctor said there were definite "red flags" and "smells bad".


      He basically said that Floyd would have just been given fluids since IVs are banned and gave the scenarios that would have made it legit. He basically said if Floyd truly required an IV, his medical condition would have been so bad that he would NOT have been in a condition to fight Manny!!!

      Instead Floyd was giving interviews soon after the IVs.
      and saying that he is "happy" and talking about OTHER fighters who come into fights "drained" because they walk around 20lb over weight. He admitted right there and then that he walks around 150, 148 …. cam in at 146 and DRANK a lot.


      You really going to tell me that I am fishing with the above stats that are right in your face????


      3) here is a USADA statement on a guy who got caught using an IV.

      they provided when a TUE should be requested prior (in advance) and when it is acceptable for RETRO TUEs.



      USADA investigated this guy and suspended him 14 months for getting, like Floyd, a vitamin ****tail.

      Interestingly specifies when you need a TUE prior to and when you can get a RETRO TUE.


      RETRO TUE for emergency
      Prior TUE for recovery


      On May 24, 2018, Lochte, 33, posted an image on social media depicting himself receiving an intravenous infusion. A subsequent investigation by USADA, with which Lochte fully cooperated, revealed that Lochte received an intravenous infusion of permitted substances at an infusion clinic in a volume greater than 100 mL in a 12-hour period without a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

      Intravenous infusions or injections in a volume greater than 100 mL within a 12-hour period are prohibited at all times – except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital treatment, surgical procedures, or clinical diagnostic investigations under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing, the United States Olympic Committee National Anti-Doping Policies, and the Fédération Internationale de Natation Anti-Doping Rules, all of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List.

      Intravenous infusions or injections in excess of 100 mL within a 12-hour period received in any other setting require an approved TUE. If a prohibited substance is administered intravenously or via injection, a TUE is necessary for this substance regardless of volume.

      Administration of IV infusions over the WADA volume limit, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval.

      In situations of medical emergency, a retroactive TUE application pursuant to the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions is acceptable. USADA has additional information regarding IV infusions available here.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        THAT'S THE BEST YOU GOT? UNDERSTAND WHAT???


        YOUR OWN DAMN INFORMATION SAID RUMORS THAT COULDN'T BE CORROBORATED, AND YOUR THEORY OF "CHEAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WITH EPO DURING EVERY DAMN TRAINING CAMP" MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY IF HE IS ALLOWED TO CHEAT AS MUCH AS HE WANT DURING EVERY TRAINING CAMP AND GOT AWAY WITH IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS, WHY THE FVVCK WOULD HE SUDDENLY NEED AN IV. THEN AFTER THE FIGHT HE ALSO PASSES NO PROBLEM WITHOUT HIS MICRODOSE????


        DO YOU EVEN HAVE A BRAIN???? LOG THE FVVCCK OFF. I TOLD YOU GUYS THIS FOOL IS AN ABSOLUTE MORON!!!!!!
        RUMORs? This was an investigation and they were NOT laughing at that possibility like this DUCK that I know who QUACKs.

        They explained it to you DUCKard. Just say that you are not buying what they said and I told you. OK, well, you are a DUCK!!!


        Micro-dosing, you may get caught if you get unlucky and you were tested soon after you took EPO, for example.

        BUT if you delay 6 hours + the time that you took it is greater than the window to test positive then you are NOT going to get caught.


        BUT you are a DUCK!!! I do not want to strain your brain any further!!!







        Sorry about that DUCKard. I must have strained your DUCK brain too much. Now I am starting to understand why you misinterpret almost everything that you read!






        Whenever Google is able to translate it to DUCK language, I will definitely give you a call .




        UNTIL THEN

        The ONLY CALL that YOU KNOW OF is


        QUACK!!!!!!!




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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          RUMORs? This was an investigation and they were NOT laughing at that possibility like this DUCK that I know who QUACKs.

          They explained it to you DUCKard. Just say that you are not buying what they said and I told you. OK, well, you are a DUCK!!!


          Micro-dosing, you may get caught if you get unlucky and you were tested soon after you took EPO, for example.

          BUT if you delay 6 hours + the time that you took it is greater than the window to test positive then you are NOT going to get caught.


          BUT you are a DUCK!!! I do not want to strain your brain any further!!!







          Sorry about that DUCKard. I must have strained your DUCK brain too much. Now I am starting to understand why you misinterpret almost everything that you read!






          Whenever Google is able to translate it to DUCK language, I will definitely give you a call .




          UNTIL THEN

          The ONLY CALL that YOU KNOW OF is


          QUACK!!!!!!!






          READ YOUR OWN INFORMATION YOU MORON!!!!!!



          However, EPO has never completely disappeared from cycling. There are still riders who test positive for EPO and there are continuously rumours that certain riders by means of fixed micro doses of EPO, cheat UCI’s biological passport to show elevated but stabile hematocrit values which do not raise su****ion.

          During its interviews, the investigative group attempted to collect information on this form of doping, but besides a few interviewees expressing su****ion that this happens, it has not been possible to get more information on this during this investigation.

          [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]


          NOW TELL ME. HOW MANY UCI RIDERS ARE TESTED AFTER THE RACE? TELL ME, ADP.


          AND IT'S YOU THAT IS DUCKING ME. YOU BEEN DUCKING PAYING YOUR DEBT FROM THAT 4-0 ASSWHOPPIN, HAVEN'T YOU. AND YOU SHOULD GO CHECK OUT SPOON'S THREAD. I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING THERE YOU'LL LIKE

          YOU BETTER NOT DUCK ME, SON!


          QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK. THIS TIME IT'S PERMANENT BAN AND ALL POINTS. WAITING....
          Last edited by travestyny; 08-20-2018, 04:59 PM.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            1) Floyd/Ellerbe went on record and said it was just dehydration.
            They're under no obligation to publicly reveal his private medical information.


            He basically said that Floyd would have just been given fluids since IVs are banned and gave the scenarios that would have made it legit.
            The doctors who analyze the TUE request have no idea who the athlete is.

            The TUE committee agreed the IV was medically necessary. Case closed. All you have is unsupported conspiracy theories.

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            • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
              They're under no obligation to publicly reveal his private medical information.




              The doctors who analyze the TUE request have no idea who the athlete is.

              The TUE committee agreed the IV was medically necessary. Case closed. All you have is unsupported conspiracy theories.

              1) I already told you that they went on record to tell us it was "JUST DEHYDRATION"

              A medical condition needs to be reported to NSAC. It was not (pre-fight form) but like they said it was JUST DEHYDRATION.


              2) You just pretending not to see what the head of the WADA TUEC Committee and doctor said. Or you think that is a fringe conspirator too?

              3) Even USADA's own statements bring up some very interesting comments on when the athletes has to have a prior TUE and RETRO TUEs

              It goes hand in hand with what the head of the WADA TUEC Committee was getting at!



              Here is Floyd right after getting his IV.

              the statements that come out of his mouth. WOW!!!!



              FLOYD MAYWEATHER RELAXING AS HE TALKS PACQUIAO AND MORE LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE SHOWDOWN
              "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything ….



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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Is Spoon right about you being an ALT?


                Actually nothing was debunked. Similar statements were said about Lance Armstrong and now we know the truth!


                Floyd's weight was rock solid for 1 month and actually he admits, for a decade!

                Floyd drank plenty after the weigh-in.

                Vitals - normal

                His plan for the last few days before the fight was to relax.


                Floyd/Ellerbe said "It was just dehydration"




                Your return comment is always the same.



                .
                My return comments are the same because I don't have to waiver from my stance for the sake of argument.

                My opinions are based on factual evidence.

                You however manipulate articles/ manipulate quotes / ignore factual information/ use biased sources/ corroborate rumors/ speculate/ change conspiracy theories when debunked/ then blame every for cheating.


                Think about your post history.


                Even your quotes about head of WADA saying a red flag - he clearly states he is unaware of the details surrounding Floyd IV. You ignore that part.

                IN THE SAME INTERVIEW he clearly states MICRODOSING AT UNDETECTABLE LEVELS HAS A PLACEBO EFFECT. Today's labs can find a cup of sugar in a swimming pool.


                How does that support your microdosing theory?

                It doesn't. So you ignore it as well.




                Look how you are now presenting Floyd quotes.....

                2 weeks ago you present a false transcript claiming "Floyd said giving blood caused dehydration."

                I proved you were lying.....

                Now your trying to spin it as Floyd/Ellerbe and "just dehydration".





                At every turn your conspiracy changes and takes on a new form.


                Lol. 30 day weight doe.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post

                  I provided several of many possible scenarios.
                  Lol. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

                  The reason you keep providing several of many because they keep getting debunked.



                  And look at you still posting "RUMORS" as a fact....

                  However, EPO has never completely disappeared from cycling. There are still riders who test positive for EPO and there are continuously rumours that certain riders by means of fixed micro doses of EPO, cheat UCI’s biological passport to show elevated but stabile hematocrit values which do not raise su****ion.

                  During its interviews, the investigative group attempted to collect information on this form of doping, but besides a few interviewees expressing su****ion that this happens, it has not been possible to get more information on this during this investigation.
                  Highlight that part next time.....






                  Question: Was David Gerrard head of WADA TUEC lying or wrong about the effects of microdosing?
                  Last edited by Dosumpthin; 08-20-2018, 09:26 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                    It's reality whether we like it or not and for like 200 posts on here, you need to slow your roll partner.
                    Well if I need to slow my roll due to my lack of posts then maybe u should slow ur roll on making claims about the peds uve never even tried. On the brightside feuding only increases our posts so somehow that makes us better somehow right? Anywho ur a boxing fan and have ur own opinions so I like u already.

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                      Lol. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

                      The reason you keep providing several of many because they keep getting debunked.



                      And look at you still posting "RUMORS" as a fact....



                      Highlight that part next time.....






                      Question: Was David Gerrard head of WADA TUEC lying or wrong about the effects of microdosing?

                      LMAOO. To ADP, Rumors are not rumors, doe! Truth is not truth. Out of scope means in scope, etc, etc. This dude is the biggest, most desperate scumbag here bar none!

                      But he never misses an opportunity to embarrass himself. I give him that.

                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      However, EPO has never completely disappeared from cycling. There are still riders who test positive for EPO and there are continuously rumours that certain riders by means of fixed micro doses of EPO, cheat UCI’s biological passport to show elevated but stabile hematocrit values which do not raise su****ion.
                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      RUMORs? This was an investigation and they were NOT laughing at that possibility

                      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                      Last edited by travestyny; 08-20-2018, 05:07 PM.

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