Why did Wilder and team drag their feet when Hearn sent them the contract?

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  • rickJen
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    #21
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    They didn't drag their feet, so your entire thread is based on a troll premise. Hearn dragged his feet on giving Wilder's side a date, until finally admitting the date would be April 2019.
    People are not as ****** as you think they are.
    It's not even the date they're making a huge fuss of.
    It's the rematch clause.
    But keep on perpetuating this silly narrative about the date.
    Fact: Finkel admits they didn't respond in a timely manner when he said
    he would’ve met the deadline had he been given one.
    Meaning, the date and venue was a non issue.
    But again keep on making it as if it was.
    Only your fellow Wilder defenders buy it.
    WBA/Pov would have understood and stayed neutral had Wilder and team respected them.
    But Wilder and his team were too arrogant and everyone had to wait for their very important decision.
    Man this Deontay character doesn't even deserve this kind of attention.

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      #22
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
      I'm not doubting the time frame.

      But look at it. June 22nd Finkel has the contract, clarification on 2 points and has it in writing that Joshua will fight Wilder next.

      He intends to send it back on June 29th. He doesn't state it will be signed. He knows that the WBA have already granted 7 weeks extension and they, and Povetkins promoters are on Hearns case every day.

      The date and venue isn't an issue, October/November was confirmed. Jacobs/Derevenchenko was signed and announced with no date or venue too. The rematch clause wasn't an issue. The money wasn't an issue.

      What the hell is the 7 day hold up from June 22nd to 29th supposed to be about? Why did he put out a public statement saying it will be a week before the contract is returned, unsigned?

      To be honest, I'm starting to think Warren and Finkel were in on this together. If what Warren says is true about talking to Finkel during AJ/Wilder negotiations then it is in Frank Warren's interest to scupper the deal and get Fury involved instead. He and Finkel would earn more from 2 Fury/Wilder fights than AJ/Wilder.

      Wilder and his fanboys got played.
      Finkel sent an email on the 24th saying the contract would be returned by the 29th. At the same time, Hearn delayed sending the contract for a week, then delayed clarification of said contract for another week. According to Hearn, the contract was supposed to be sent by the 15th. Instead, it was late on the 18th when recieved, and another week before the terms were made clear.

      What was Eddie's excuse for the delay between the 12th and 24th? Johnson's fanboys getting played

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      • rickJen
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        #23
        Originally posted by BreWall
        Exactly why Povetkin vs Joshua is happening. Wilder and his team didn't take the contract seriously and totally made a mockery of AJ's mandatory obligation.

        Wilder vs Joshua should have been so easy to make had they focused on the main goal, which was to win 4 more belts. Which usually accompany bigger paycheck after the victory.

        As you said, all they want to achieve is to "piss off Hearn."
        Very true doe.
        Should have been an easy fight to make
        had the B-side laser-focused on beating the top guy in the division.

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        • EnglishOxide
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          #24
          Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
          Finkel sent an email on the 24th saying the contract would be returned by the 29th. At the same time, Hearn delayed sending the contract for a week, then delayed clarification of said contract for another week. According to Hearn, the contract was supposed to be sent by the 15th. Instead, it was late on the 18th when recieved, and another week before the terms were made clear.

          What was Eddie's excuse for the delay between the 12th and 24th? Johnson's fanboys getting played

          Ok, you're trolling. Goodbye.

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          • GGG Gloveking
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            #25
            Originally posted by EnglishOxide
            Ok, you're trolling. Goodbye.
            Am I? Just combining Hearns statement from June 12 with the statement from Finkel I quoted earlier.

            Easy work...

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              #26
              Originally posted by genrick
              People are not as ****** as you think they are.
              It's not even the date they're making a huge fuss of.
              It's the rematch clause.
              hearn and finkel both publicly confirmed that wilder's side was willing to concede on the rematch clause if the fight was next. two issues, date and rematch. both sides publicly stated rematch has been dropped as an issue, leaving only date.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #27
                You already answered your question.

                I specifically remember several threads where you stated they were doing this because their plan all along is to fight Dominic Breazeale next.

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                • brettWall
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by genrick
                  Very true doe.
                  Should have been an easy fight to make
                  had the B-side laser-focused on beating the top guy in the division.
                  I'm not even surprised why team Wilder was unable to respond quickly bearing in mind that Finkel had to deal with Wilder's 2 other managers.

                  It's clear they didn't feel the need to respect and acknowledge that the WBA and Povetkin were waiting for an answer. AJ losing a title without a challenger didn't seem important to them. Strangely enough, Finkel can't even talk to Hearn on the phone. Nobody knows why.

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                  • sicko
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                    #29
                    We doing this again? Tired of this Wilder Sign The Contract, AJ Turned Down $50 Million BS Time to move on and hope that IF AJ and Wilder win their next fights that future negotiations go a lot smoother! Both still young and in their Prime. Time is not running out I don't think, boxing fans need to relax sometimes, we act like time is running out or something and all the big and best fights need to happen right away. RELAX!

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                    • EnglishOxide
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      hearn and finkel both publicly confirmed that wilder's side was willing to concede on the rematch clause if the fight was next.

                      How does nobody on the Wilder side see the BS here?

                      If Wilder accepted terms with a rematch clause for if he lost, why the hell would he then just forfeit that when the contract comes? It's a chance to win his belt back.

                      It's clear BS. A rematch for Wilder if he lost was never in the offer, but they kicked up a fuss when the contract arrived without it. It was a clear stall tactic and PR move.

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